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	<title>Comments on: Girls on the internet</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:03:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Girls on the internet</title>
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		<description>Help me find websites suitable for a family with girls aged 3 to 9 years. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I am helping a friend set up a new PC with internet access. This will be the first time that they have had internet access on broadband since the girls were born.&lt;br&gt;
I will be setting up the PC along the lines of flabdalet&apos;s excellent suggestions (http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/31069#488004), with the girls having user access accounts.&lt;br&gt;
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The parents are not tech-savy, but they are capable people.&lt;br&gt;
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I was going to set up gmail accounts for the girls, install gtalk and google earth. I want to avoid messenger if possible.&lt;br&gt;
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I intend to add bookmarks to orisinal, flickr, wikipedia and (that image description game with &apos;boom&apos; in the title whose name is currently evading me).&lt;br&gt;
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I also intend to install the cloud game (http://intihuatani.usc.edu/cloud/) as they have a 256MB Graphics card and I think it will handle it just fine.&lt;br&gt;
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I am looking for things that would be interesting to young girls and any further advice on making the system as easy to use and &apos;bulletproof&apos; as possible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:45:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jrossi4r</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517121</link>	
		<description>How about some animal cams?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://animal.discovery.com/cams/pandavidr.html&quot;&gt;Panda Cam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mbayaq.org/efc/efc_smm/smm_cam.asp?bhcp=1&quot;&gt;Shark Cam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://animal.discovery.com/cams/pandavidr.html&quot;&gt;Watering Hole Cam&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:03:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jrossi4r</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517127</link>	
		<description>Also, some sites just for little people:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nickjr.com/&quot;&gt;Nick Jr.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.noggin.com&quot;&gt;Noggin&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://pbskids.org/&quot;&gt;PBS Kids &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://disney.go.com/playhouse/today/index.html&quot;&gt;Playhouse Disney&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://kids.discovery.com/&quot;&gt;Discovery Kids&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:08:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jrossi4r</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: i_am_joe&apos;s_spleen</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517140</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://himonkey.net/index2.html&quot;&gt;Hi Monkey&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://homestarrunner.com&quot;&gt;Homestarrunner&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:24:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>i_am_joe&apos;s_spleen</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: fuzzbean</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517142</link>	
		<description>Everybody needs some &lt;a href=http://cuteoverload.com/&gt;Cute Overload.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:25:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: i_am_joe&apos;s_spleen</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517144</link>	
		<description>Also, my daughter has developed an addiction to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.neopets.com/&quot;&gt;Neopets&lt;/a&gt;, not that anyone who reads as much MeFi as I is in a position to be judgemental.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:27:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>i_am_joe&apos;s_spleen</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: SashaPT</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517161</link>	
		<description>My daughter (11) loves paper doll websites like &lt;a href=&quot;http://thedollmakers.org/&quot;&gt;TheDollmakers.org&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cartoondollemporium.com/index.html&quot;&gt;Cartoon Doll Emporium&lt;/a&gt;, which our fellow Mefites assure me are &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/19304&quot;&gt;not pervy&lt;/a&gt;. And she&apos;s a Neopets fanatic too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:40:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: I Love Tacos</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517169</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://yahooligans.yahoo.com/&quot;&gt;Yahooligans&lt;/a&gt; - Yahoo for Kids.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:45:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517214</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;things that would be interesting to young girls&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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You might get better results by finding out what interests these specific girls, then sit down and help them start looking for the things you know they&apos;re excited about.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:43:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nkyad</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517226</link>	
		<description>May I suggest you drop gtalk for Gaim? Gaim will support GTalk but also MSM, ICQ, Jabber and many other things. Either that or go MSM directly.&lt;br&gt;
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I say that because you will need MSM. With a broadband connection, in no time at all the girls, specially the older one, will want to talk to her friends over the Internet and almost everyone will be using MSM. A well-configured Messenger (no IP leaking, no messages from people outside the list etc) will keep everyone safe and happy, so you&apos;d better do it for them right away.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:54:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: asok</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517256</link>	
		<description>Fair point mediareport, but I will not be in the house at the same time as them.&lt;br&gt;
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nykad, what about trillian? Is gaim superior? Are you suggesting that I set up messenger anyway, if so do you have a link to some instructions on fixing the security on Messenger? Thanks.&lt;br&gt;
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Also, does anyone know the name of the picture guessing thing I was thinking of? It was something to do with image tag definitions.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:37:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: asok</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517289</link>	
		<description>Oh, and thanks everyone for the link suggestions.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:50:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ceri richard</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517344</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/&quot;&gt;Orisinal&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:32:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: k8t</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517350</link>	
		<description>Do kids need e-mail addresses?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:54:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gsteff</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517368</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;May I suggest you drop gtalk for Gaim? Gaim will support GTalk but also MSM, ICQ, Jabber and many other things. Either that or go MSM directly.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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This is probably not a good thing for 3-9 year-old girls.  I&apos;ve received plenty of IM spam as both an AIM and Yahoo user, and you probably don&apos;t want to be getting them hooked on IM anyway.  Panda cam is a great idea, though, if they have decent bandwidth.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:57:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hmca</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517369</link>	
		<description>The bbc&apos;s site for the younger ones (3 to 6): &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/&quot;&gt;cbeebies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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For the not so young ones (6 to 9): &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc&quot;&gt;cbbc&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:08:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SuperSquirrel</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517473</link>	
		<description>My 10-year-old daughter&apos;s current faves:&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://play.toontown.com/webHome.php&quot;&gt;ToonTown &lt;/a&gt;(a Disney thing) - let&apos;s you play games as a cartoon - there are free temporary accounts, but requires a fee for an ongoing account (requires IE)&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.runescape.com/&quot;&gt;Runescape &lt;/a&gt;- another multiplayer game where you have to perform tasks and can interact with other players - paying accounts get more powers and options, but free accounts get fun stuff too (this may not be suitable for the younger ones)&lt;br&gt;
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I second Cute Overload and the panda cam.&lt;br&gt;
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Also, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalgeographic.com/kids/&quot;&gt;National Geographic Kids&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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Not a web site, but a software suggestion: If they like horses, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=br_ss_hs/104-0558527-5171933?search-alias=aps&amp;keywords=Let%27s%20ride&quot;&gt;Let&apos;s Ride&lt;/a&gt; series of games has provided hours and hours of entertainment for the young &apos;un.  I&apos;ve found older copies for cheap in the discount bins at major electronics stores.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.number-logic.com/today/&quot;&gt;Sudoku&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br&gt;
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Kids need email addresses so doting aunties and grandmas can send them &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=ofdk06&quot;&gt;fun&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=ofdmic&quot;&gt;pictures &lt;/a&gt;and check in with a &quot;howdy&quot; now and then.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:10:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>SuperSquirrel</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: nkyad</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33164/Girls-on-the-internet#517554</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;gsteff&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&apos;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/33164#517368&apos;&gt;:&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&quot;you probably don&apos;t want to be getting them hooked on IM anyway&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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IM is a communication device, much like a phone, so I think the same policy should be applied - a 9+ years old  today will prefer IM (so will their parents as the phone will be much more available) to talk to friends.&lt;br&gt;
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As for securing it, it is pretty much a matter of configuring the client to always require authorization for inclusion in the buddy list, to only accept messages from people on your list and teaching the kid not to allow the inclusion of any strangers (pretty much like teaching them not to speak with strangers over the phone). I have been using IM for ages and Gaim for a while (under these restrictive rules) and I never receive spam through IM.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:30:04 -0800</pubDate>
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