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	<title>Comments on: Paper and pencil just aren't cutting it</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:31:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Paper and pencil just aren&apos;t cutting it</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/31480/Paper-and-pencil-just-arent-cutting-it</link>	
		<description>Does anyone have any recommendations for free, Win98-compatible software that will help me design a community garden for my non-profit organization?  Am I looking for a CAD program?  If so, which of the thousands out there should I use? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I&apos;ve long since given up hope on finding a gardening-specific design program, so I&apos;m settling on anything that will help me easily create a to-scale drawing.  I&apos;d like to be able to modify the diagram once it&apos;s created and print it out (sounds obvious, but you&apos;d be surprised at the trouble I&apos;ve been having with the programs I&apos;ve tried out).  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/&quot;&gt;Dia&lt;/a&gt; crashes at startup, Grids isn&apos;t what I&apos;m looking for, and the free trial of Sketchup is unfortunately not compatible with Windows 98.  Gardeners/landscapers, what do you use?&lt;br&gt;
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Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:56:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: psychobum</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/31480/Paper-and-pencil-just-arent-cutting-it#493532</link>	
		<description>I have used &lt;a href=&quot;http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html&quot;&gt;GIMP for windows&lt;/a&gt; to create mock layouts of my bedroom to visualize rearranging the floorspace. Just substitute pixels for inches, put each thing in its own layer, and fill layers with patterns/colors. It&apos;s pretty easy once you have created all the elements, but this would work for a 2d layout only</description>
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		<title>By: mdevore</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/31480/Paper-and-pencil-just-arent-cutting-it#493537</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m not so sure you should have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smallblueprinter.com/garden/&quot;&gt;given up on the idea of Win98-compatible garden design software&lt;/a&gt;.  It&apos;s a free trial, but if you need and like it beyond the trial time, it&apos;s only $20.  CNET gives it 4 of 5 stars, in a review, for whatever that might be worth.  There&apos;s also an online version at the site.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:35:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: holloway</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/31480/Paper-and-pencil-just-arent-cutting-it#493546</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inkscape.org/download.php&quot;&gt;Inkscape for Windows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goosee.com/goosee/evewe/&quot;&gt;Eve&lt;/a&gt; (I use Linux, haven&apos;t used Eve before).</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:40:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ampa</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/31480/Paper-and-pencil-just-arent-cutting-it#493666</link>	
		<description>Not free (but not expensive either): I have used Xara very successfully for many garden designs.  It is a vector based art package, along the lines of Adobe Illustrator, but very intuative to use, and remarkably powerful given its limited pallet of tools.&lt;br&gt;
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The current version is Xara Xtreme v2 and you can read about it and download a trial version &lt;a href=http://xara.com/products/xtreme/&gt; HERE&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:14:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bigmusic</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/31480/Paper-and-pencil-just-arent-cutting-it#493719</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mapmaker.com/products.htm&quot;&gt;Map Maker Gratis could do this easily.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:24:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nikzhowz</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/31480/Paper-and-pencil-just-arent-cutting-it#493971</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roomarranger.com/&quot;&gt;RoomArranger&lt;/a&gt; is 9x compatible and has objects for creating gardens (there are a few examples in their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roomarranger.com/gallery.html&quot;&gt;gallery&lt;/a&gt; page). The current version is shareware ($20), but though it&apos;s no longer linked, the old 3.26 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roomarranger.com/prg/rooarr326.exe&quot;&gt;freeware version&lt;/a&gt; is still available for download.&lt;br&gt;
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If you want to view your creations in 3D, you&apos;ll need a VRML viewer. Recommended viewers are linked at the bottom of the site&apos;s front page.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 03:53:24 -0800</pubDate>
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