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	<title>Comments on: Deliberate typos in phishing scams?</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:45:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Deliberate typos in phishing scams?</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams</link>	
		<description>Why do phishing scam e-mails always seem to have at least one very obvious typo? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; even when one of these things is well written (like by someone who may actually be a native english speaker) there&apos;s always one, often quite a big one. For instance, the most recent message I&apos;ve received has &quot;Please note that this suspension does not relieve you of your agreed-upon obligation to &lt;b&gt;!pay&lt;/b&gt; any fees you may owe to eBay.&quot; !pay looks like a hard mistake to make and an easy one to catch before sending, particularly when the scammer has taken the time to write a semi-plausible e-mail with a masked url, etc. Is there some scammer lore that says if there&apos;s an obvious typo, they can&apos;t arrest you or something?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:43:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PinkStainlessTail</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: Optamystic</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#455845</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s a ploy used to defeat spam filters, which look for specific words such as &quot;Viagra&quot;, &quot;Free&quot;, &quot;Rolex&quot; etc..</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:45:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Optamystic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: knave</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#455846</link>	
		<description>To get past spam filters which are based on keywords.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:45:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>knave</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: knave</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#455847</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Now &lt;i&gt;that&apos;s&lt;/i&gt; a jynx.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:46:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>knave</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pmbuko</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#455850</link>	
		<description>I doubt it has anything to do with legal loopholes. Perhaps the persons doing the phishing are so brainless that they have to leave a signature of some sort so they themselves don&apos;t fall prey to it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:47:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PinkStainlessTail</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#455855</link>	
		<description>Thanks, but &quot;v1agrra, r0lexx,&quot;etc. are not the kind of thing I&apos;m asking about.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:49:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PinkStainlessTail</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: thanotopsis</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#455876</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Thanks, but &quot;v1agrra, r0lexx,&quot;etc. are not the kind of thing I&apos;m asking about.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Certainly, but &lt;b&gt;Optamystic&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;knave&lt;/b&gt; certainly have good guesses:  You said it yourself, they&apos;re otherwise grammatically correct letters.  The logical explanation is that the typo is purposeful.  The question then is: To what purpose?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:59:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blue mustard</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#455878</link>	
		<description>I wonder if it&apos;s an attempt to fool spam blockers at ISPs that reject large numbers of identical messages. If the exlamation point was changed or moved for each recipient, then each email would be &quot;unique,&quot; perhaps helping it get through the filters.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:01:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>blue mustard</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cyphill</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#455956</link>	
		<description>I just recently received a phishing email that spelled the word &quot;chance&quot; &quot;chanse&quot;. I seriously doubt that they misspelled that to get around filters.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:42:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: curiousleo</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#455971</link>	
		<description>I also second that it is to fool the spam blockers...&lt;br&gt;
But they are still very dumb people.. I had a scammer who pretended to be interested in buying my used car who kept replying to my messages with purposeful typos... like &quot;I will send you $10000 cas hier&apos;s che ck for your $6000 car if you would refund me $4000 when you sh ip your car to me&quot;   Even though I was also pretending to be interested in selling the car and kept replying, he would still do the typo thing.&lt;br&gt;
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I sold two cars through autotrader.com and every time I had at least two scammers trying to do same thing to me.. My friend had exact same scammer when he was selling his car so I knew what I was getting into...&lt;br&gt;
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During the weekend when I had free time, I gave both scammers&apos; email address to eachother and told them to talk to eachother and I will sell the car to highest bid...&lt;br&gt;
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it was the funniest thing I ever saw.. they actually pretended to eachother all in typos again...  During about an hour or so, I sent both scammers some garbage attachement files to fill up their fake free email accounts...(i wanted to get it back to them some how... or at least waste their time...)&lt;br&gt;
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These were persistant scammers who would talk to you for more than few days and few dozen emails to get you to fall for their scams...&lt;br&gt;
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Maybe I should have contacted police or something.. but If this type of thing happens so often, why could they track them when a guy comes to my front door to pick up my car and give me the fake over-amount check.&lt;br&gt;
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Couldn&apos;t cops trace back to the scammer fairly easily when scammers are about to receive the payoff...?&lt;br&gt;
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All scammers are trying to get payoffs some how... and at these modern days, I can&apos;t believe everyone can not be traced back...  AD spams I can understand.. but outright fraud scammers should be hunted down...  &lt;br&gt;
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I almost wanted to give the scammer my local police dept address and have the shipper come to the station... the shipper probably don&apos;t know what is going on but at least the cops can be aware of the situation and hoply  do something about it.&lt;br&gt;
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It was going to be simple &quot;I second that&quot; but sorry I started to get emotional...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:50:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>curiousleo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Plutor</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#455973</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/28959#455956&quot;&gt;cyphill&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;&lt;i&gt;I just recently received a phishing email that spelled the word &quot;chance&quot; &quot;chanse&quot;. I seriously doubt that they misspelled that to get around filters.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt;
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Many spam filters use a &lt;em&gt;huge&lt;/em&gt; number of little rules to decide if something&apos;s spam.  A certain phrase or a couple words used near each other is more likely to be spam than not, so the filter adds a fraction of a &quot;maybe spam&quot; point to that email.  If the number of points exceeds some limit, it&apos;s spam.&lt;br&gt;
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&quot;Chance&quot; seems like a perfect word to misspell.  A non-trivial number of spams probably talk about &quot;chance to win&quot; or some such, so I wouldn&apos;t be surprised if that word (or the phrase) had value to a Bayesian filter.  The same with &quot;pay&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:50:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Falconetti</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#456120</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;These were &lt;/i&gt;persistant&lt;i&gt; scammers&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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And why should we believe you, hmm? :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:18:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Falconetti</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: waldo</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#456127</link>	
		<description>I think the bang (&quot;!&quot;) in your e-mail is simply an artifact of exploiting an e-mail form in order to broadcast the message.  Some forms being handled via some languages (data posted to a poorly-written [eg, mine] PHP e-mail handler, for instance) will force wrap lines that are too long, marking that wrap with a bang.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:29:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: curiousleo</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#456158</link>	
		<description>Falconetti... :-)  &lt;em&gt;persistent&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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You are right... why should anyone believe anonymous messages...&lt;br&gt;
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But these few supposely potential sales transactions got me thinking... &lt;br&gt;
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These weren&apos;t dollar scammers, these were few thousand dollar scammers... what if i was older person or people who are not yet savvy internet user like my well educated friend who was approached (who actually was going to go through with this before I stopped him).&lt;br&gt;
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How large of problem with this?&lt;br&gt;
Does this happen everytime a person puts ad like mine?&lt;br&gt;
So far it has happend everytime my friend and I put our ads... (although it was only three times...)&lt;br&gt;
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Are there an official task force like &quot;internet sex police&quot; regarding these scammers?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:50:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>curiousleo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cyphill</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#456202</link>	
		<description>Sorry, I misquoted the email. The actual phrase was &quot;If you choose to ignore our request, you leave us no choise but to temporaly suspend your account&quot;. So they actually misspelled a couple of words.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:21:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SashaPT</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#456286</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve always gotten the impression that the people writing the emails aren&apos;t native speakers of English - the grammar is always a little bit off in addition to the spelling, like they&apos;re using a computer translation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:09:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aknaton</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#456324</link>	
		<description>Just as with encyclopedias: these &quot;mistakes&quot; are copyright traps, in that when other phishers duplicate their approach, the first will have grounds for a lawsuit. No?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:28:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Aknaton</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: 4easypayments</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#456367</link>	
		<description>Some spam blockers (especially one&apos;s that rely on collaborative human identification) compare incoming messages to previously identified spam messages (hashes, usually). It&apos;s possible that the typos are inserted in unique combinations by the mass-mailing program to create slightly different, but still readable versions of the message,  bypassing detection by comparison.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:06:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skallas</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#456383</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll second the hashes explanation.  It would be interesting to see if someone you know (outside your email domain) got the same spam and if they have &quot;!pay&quot; in the same place.  A smart spammer would dynamically alter every message so your friend&apos;s spam might have &quot;pay&quot; but &quot;!ebay&quot; instead, thus creating a completely different hash.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:14:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skallas</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: altolinguistic</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#456440</link>	
		<description>SashaPT - a computer translation wouldn&apos;t introduce spelling errors, unless the errors were there in the original and by some fluke the word was the same in both languages.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:57:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: junesix</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28959/Deliberate-typos-in-phishing-scams#456626</link>	
		<description>4easypayments got it.&lt;br&gt;
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The use of spelling and content variants in the message is specifically designed to defeat collaborative distributed hash databases. Vipul&apos;s Razor, Pyzor, and DCC are among the public databases and large spam filtering service firms have their own private hash databases for their clients.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:47:40 -0800</pubDate>
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