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	<title>Comments on: Riedel Alternatives</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:02:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Riedel Alternatives</title>
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		<description>What are the best, low cost alternatives to Riedel stemware? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I understand that everyone loves Riedel, but I&apos;m not willing to pay big bucks them.  Spiegelau seems to get good marks as a an inexpensive alternative, and I&apos;d love to have that thinking confirmed or have some other alternatives proposed.  This has been &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/14337&quot;&gt;asked before&lt;/a&gt;, but never really answered as that thread focused more on the safety of leaded crystal and less on good stemware.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 11:52:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>HiddenInput</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: Sully6</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#445606</link>	
		<description>Riedel nows flogs &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.target.com/gp/browse.html/ref=in_br_display-ladders/601-2257287-9197711?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;node=15901431&quot;&gt;its (lower-priced)&lt;/a&gt; wares at Target, dontcha know.&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve heard &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spiegelau.com/english/sortiment/authentis/frameauth.htm&quot;&gt;Spiegelau&lt;/a&gt; is good. &lt;br&gt;
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I have stemware from Williams-Sonoma that I like, but I&apos;m not much of wine snob.</description>
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		<title>By: chrisgrau</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#445625</link>	
		<description>Check the forums on erobertparker.com for lots of advice on this topic. Spiegelau is quite good, though now owned by Riedel, so you don&apos;t see the great discounts showing up on Amazon that you used to.&lt;br&gt;
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Folks who work in restaurants can apparently order the Riedel &quot;Restaurant&quot; line -- the bowls have the same shape as the vinum line but are glass, not crystal, and much cheaper than the usual vinum stems. I haven&apos;t bought those, but I have used them and they are quite nice.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:14:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chrisdat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#445637</link>	
		<description>I have Reidel Vinum and the Williams-Sonoma glasses. The W-S glasses were recommended by Cooks Illustrated a few years ago as alternatives to Reidel. We put our glasses in the Dishwasher - I know, a big no-no. The Reidel glasses do not etch (get cloudy) the W-S etched badly. Even without the etching we still prefer the Reidels because of the thinness of the lip and feel of the stem.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:21:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mr_roboto</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#445644</link>	
		<description>On the cheap end:&lt;br&gt;
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If you don&apos;t care about glass vs. crystal, I think that Crate and Barrel&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crateandbarrel.com/family.aspx?c=130&amp;f=14526&amp;q=elite&amp;fromLocation=Search&amp;DIMID=400001&amp;SearchPage=1&quot;&gt;Elite &lt;/a&gt;line is a really good value.  Big bowls, long stems, thin lips: everything basic that you&apos;d be looking for.  Only two shapes, but unless you&apos;re really into wine, you can probably get by with that (ignoring champagne, of course).  Personally, I like having stemware that I don&apos;t have to worry about breaking, but I&apos;m a klutz...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:27:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adamrice</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#445673</link>	
		<description>My wife, who is knowledgeable in matters oenological, has gone with Pottery Barn&apos;s &quot;Roma&quot; stemware because it is reasonably sturdy and easy to replace.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:46:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: weapons-grade pandemonium</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#445677</link>	
		<description>I have some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.klinq.com/details.asp?prodID=103022&amp;mtcCat=Barware%3EWine%20Glasses%3EBordeaux%20Glasses&amp;Cspot=spotLoc-3|details.asp|prodid-103022&quot;&gt;Bordeaux glasses from Ultra Vino&lt;/a&gt; that I really like. $15 CAD for four.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:48:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>weapons-grade pandemonium</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: lackutrol</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#445682</link>	
		<description>I have the lower-end Riedel &quot;Ouverture&quot; line, and they end up costing something like $6-7 apiece. They are not nearly as specialized as the higher-priced lines, but I still love them, and it&apos;s hard to get good glasses at a price much lower than that.&lt;br&gt;
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Of course they&apos;re awfully easy to break because the lip is so thin, but to me it&apos;s worth it, even if I have to buy new ones every year or two.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:51:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deadfather</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#445703</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;The Reidel glasses do not etch (get cloudy) the W-S etched badly. Even without the etching we still prefer the Reidels because of the thinness of the lip and feel of the stem.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Sorry to hijack, but huh? Is one of those statements backwards?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 13:06:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: teg</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#445724</link>	
		<description>Read the second sentence as &quot;Even if the Reidels were not superior in regard to etching, we would still prefer them because of the thinness of the lip and feel of the stem.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 13:24:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: catdog</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#445745</link>	
		<description>Despite the best efforts of others I never did blossom into wine geek.  However, you may want to look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wineoftheweek.com/murray/0111glasses.html&quot;&gt;ISO tasting glass&lt;/a&gt;.  A &apos;modest and invaluable investment&apos; that is also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iso.org/iso/en/CatalogueDetailPage.CatalogueDetail?CSNUMBER=9002&amp;ICS1=67&amp;ICS2=240&amp;ICS3=&quot;&gt;ISO 3591&lt;/a&gt; compliant!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 13:41:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rothko</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#445752</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.triacafe.com/&quot;&gt;wine bar&lt;/a&gt; in Philadelphia I&apos;ve been to a few times. &lt;br&gt;
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I asked the owner about the really nice stemware he uses and he suggested that, if you don&apos;t mind quantity, you can buy stemware from restaurant supply stores (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.restaurantsource.net/landing.cfm/1110,Barware%20%26%20Glassware,XX&quot;&gt;example&lt;/a&gt;). &lt;br&gt;
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It can be good value for the price, and if your guests break a few, you&apos;ll have plenty left. &lt;br&gt;
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Likewise, if you have a wine bar near you, you might ask the proprietor for advice.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 13:57:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Caviar</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#445985</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m quite fond of the Riedel O glasses. They&apos;re not technically &quot;stemware&quot;, as they have no stems, but they are pretty nice low-end everyday wineglasses, running about $8-10 per glass. They&apos;re surprisingly pleasant to drink from, and I find very little downside to the lack of a  stem. They&apos;re easy to clean (they say they&apos;re safe to put in the dishwasher, but  I don&apos;t), they&apos;re much less tippy than stemmed glasses, and they have varietal shapes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:42:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cali</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/28331/Riedel-Alternatives#447054</link>	
		<description>Many of the higher-end wineries use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.villagekitchen.com/mfg/arc/arques/g/mendocino/mendocino.html&quot;&gt;Cristal d&apos;Arques&apos; &quot;Mendocino&quot; line&lt;/a&gt;. They&apos;re leaded crystal, have tall stems, thin lips and large bowls and are affordable enough to include in the price of a $6-10 tasting. That link is to a wholesaler, I wasn&apos;t able to find a retailer with a quick googling but I&apos;m sure they&apos;re out there. If not, I can give you a list of wineries that could order them for you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 11:53:33 -0800</pubDate>
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