Comments on: Help me fix my Firefox!

Question: Help me fix my Firefox!

XiBe — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:20:34 -0800

A couple of Firefox questions, if you please... Mostly Flash-display related.

I've googled a bit, but can't seem to find the right answer. I thought v1.5 would solve it all, but nope. So, I'm turning to you, fellow MeFiers...

1/ The drop-down URL list (from the URL bar) shows the most accessed URL at the bottom, not at the top, which seems illogical, Captain. How come ? Can't find a setting for it in about:config...

2/ Why won't Flash always show ? It works for some, but not all. For instance, the menus in http://www.macromedia.com/ are replaced by an empty space (not even replaced by JavaScript menu), http://www.hi-res.net/ is just a white page, as is http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/.
OTOH, the del.icio.us mp3 player plays, as does the fine French equivalent DewPlayer, or yet another one from, used by robotwisdom.

My wild guess is that the the ones that work do because they would use some kind of simpler markup, maybe, but I really can't tell.

I tried removing NPSWF32.dll wherever I found it, or putting suspect files in plugins_disabled, then reinstalling from Firefox itself, to no avail (what more, it only suggests to install Flash for the SWF that worked before).
My about:plugins shows this, among others (Quicktime, Java, Acrobat, MS DRM...) :

Shockwave Flash
Nom de fichier : NPSWF32.dll
Shockwave Flash 8.0 r22

And, finally : it only does this on my work computer (Win2k, IE6 and Opera play Flash fine), not my home one.

Any idea ?

By: altolinguistic

altolinguistic — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:55:36 -0800

I'm on 1.0.7 and the drop-down URL list simply displays in the order in which you typed them into the address bar - I lost my bookmarks the other day, and now ask.metafilter.com is at the bottom of the list because that was the one I entered first...

By: Dipsomaniac

Dipsomaniac — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:22:12 -0800

Is there some sort of firewall or content-filtering mechanism at work? If you're not using an extension like Adblock, which can take a regular expression and gut websites with it if it's too broad, is there something else on the network that might be stripping content out?

By: nkyad

nkyad — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:37:53 -0800

I am using Firefox 1.5 and Flash 8. I can't reproduce any of your concerns: The URLs in the address bar list appear in cronological order and the Macromedia site shows as it is supposed to show - the Flash menu is there. Maybe it has something to do with your setup. You say you have already tried to uninstall and reinstall Flash. You can also uninstall Firefox and then manually delete anything it lefts behind (plugins, preferences, etc) - remember to back everything up first. Abd then maybe it has something to do with Win2K (I am using XP).

By: gramcracker

gramcracker — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:01:25 -0800

Do you have adblock installed? Try turning it off.

By: XiBe

XiBe — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:09:10 -0800

Thanks for your answers, but still nothing.
I don't have AdBlock installed. My extensions :
DOM Inspector,
TalkBack,
miniT,
Linkification,
Html Validator,
GMail Notifier,
IE View,
SessionSaver .2,
BugMeNot,
WebDeveloper,
DownThemAll,
JavaScript Debugger,
Nightly Tester Tools.

I'll try and uninstall it all when I get the time... Still looking for ideas... Grmbl.

By: picea

picea — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:18:17 -0800

I had the same problem with invisible Flash objects. I just disabled AdBlock and that solved the problem. I then updated to FireFox 1.5 and AdBlock 0.5.2.056 and that seemed to bring things back to normal.

By: Dipsomaniac

Dipsomaniac — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:21:10 -0800

You don't have to uninstall them for a first check, just disable them one at a time to see if that makes a difference. I have Dom Inspector, Linkification, IE View, Bugmenot, Web Developer and Nightly Tester Tools installed and I have no trouble with Flash, so it's less likely to be those extensions.

By: Dipsomaniac

Dipsomaniac — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:35:13 -0800

As an aside, I saw that you don't have Adblock installed now, but if you ever did and then tried to use Adblock's own uninstaller, it could have left some cruft on your system. If that is the case, try re-installing Adblock and then un-installing through the Extension Manager.

By: XiBe

XiBe — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:20:44 -0800

Installed AdBlock, restarted, uninstalled, restarted, no luck...

By: grafholic

grafholic — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:52:57 -0800

the flash problem could be that your office blocks certain communication through certain ports and your FF not being able to find alternative way to download the file.
namely, port 1935 and 443.

any way you could connect via dial-up?

you might want to post the flash thing on macromedia support forum - support engineers regularly checks threads there and reply with solution if it's known.

By: XiBe

XiBe — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:55:46 -0800

Grapholic : why not, how would that explain the fact that some Flash animations play just fine, and IE & Opera can play all known Flash ?
I'll try a clean uninstall/reinstall of Firefox, I gues...

By: grafholic

grafholic — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:03:59 -0800

ah sorry i didn't read the part that some flash works but others don't.

i would like say that detection script on MM site isn't working or the known rendering issue with Flash 8 and Firefox (some animations don't render properly due to XHTML code in the HTML head) - then again, it seems like others with similar setup as yours as well as your home machine work fine.

it could be one of the extensions, but that's just a wild guess.

By: grafholic

grafholic — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:07:10 -0800

hey if you haven't uninstalled yet, on MM or hi-res site, if you right-click on the area where flash animation is supposed to be, what do you see? is it even detecting flash? or does it show like right-clicking on regular HTML page w/out flash?

By: Plutor

Plutor — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:29:01 -0800

XiBe: "I'll try and uninstall it all when I get the time... Still looking for ideas... Grmbl."

Don't uninstall them all. Start in safe mode by adding --safe-mode to the command line. That'll disable all extensions and start with the default skin.

By: dhartung

dhartung — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:51:27 -0800

Inconsistent behavior like this points to a corrupt profile. 80% of problems with Firefox are caused by bad profiles, IME. Try creating a new profile by running and see if that new profile has the same problem. If not, move your bookmarks over and reinstall extensions one by one, checking to see if the problem reappears.

By: Rhomboid

Rhomboid — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:13:22 -0800

Run the profile manager and create a new, blank profile without any of the cruft from your old one. Verify that the problem still occurs. Note this is the only way to reliably do this, you can't just uninstall/disable extensions. They will still leave behind their crud. A blank profile is the way to go. It sounds like you have some remains of an old extension, or some kind of interaction between two extensions.

By: edgeways

edgeways — Sat, 03 Dec 2005 15:31:00 -0800

I'm having somethinf simular... after upgrading to FF 1.5 I can't get any flash elements to load in the browser, it seems like flash is running just not getting it onscreen.

By: XiBe

XiBe — Mon, 05 Dec 2005 03:23:14 -0800

Yep, create a new profile did work. Browsing through my old profile, there seem to be remnants of the TabExtensions xpi...
Anyway, Flash at last works, I can dump IE usage for that, phew :)
Thank you dhartung and Rhomboid, and all the people who gave ideas.