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      <title>Comments on: Science fiction on ice</title>
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  	<title>Question: Science fiction on ice</title>
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  	<description>I need recommendations for excellent science fiction books, movies, short stories (or anything, really) centered around life, scientific exploration, and/or research in the arctic, antarctica, or similar fictional extreme cold climates.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Think the X-Files episode &quot;Ice,&quot; or Firefly in a really really cold climate (I can&apos;t think of any literary examples). I realize there are many documentaries out there centered around this subject, but I&apos;m specifically looking for science fiction.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:44:36 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: phearlez</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429474</link>	
  	<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084787/&quot;&gt;The Thing.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:51:23 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: zadcat</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429486</link>	
  	<description>Doris Lessing&apos;s &lt;i&gt;The Making of the Representative for Planet 8&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:02:43 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: crush-onastick</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429492</link>	
  	<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue116/classic.html&quot;&gt;le guin&apos;s &lt;u&gt;left hand of darkness&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is about a world called winter (well, really, it&apos;s about dualism and gender roles and science fiction as metaphor for the human condition, but it&apos;s set on a very cold planet).</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:06:49 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: xmutex</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429495</link>	
  	<description>Poe&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0140437487&quot;&gt;Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym&lt;/a&gt; is a very strange tale that takes its narrator down into Antarctica.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:09:56 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: RakDaddy</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429496</link>	
  	<description>Kim Stanley Robinson&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0553574027/qid=1132099769/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4463649-4940022?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&quot;&gt;Antarctica&lt;/a&gt; .</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:10:34 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Capn</title>
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  	<description>Did you say &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baen.com/chapters/W200501/0743498747___6.htm&quot;&gt;extreme&lt;/a&gt; cold?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:12:33 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: judybxxx</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429502</link>	
  	<description>I loved this as a teenager - I think it&apos;s a classic.  I&apos;ve got to run, so don&apos;t know if it&apos;s in libraries.&lt;br&gt;
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Iceworld by Hal Clement, First Published in 1953 &lt;br&gt;
Genre(s): SF&lt;br&gt;
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From the Publisher&lt;br&gt;
Planet of Death. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The world was cold. The crew of the spaceship could feel the chill in their bones even as they hung in orbit, fifty planetary diameters away. &lt;br&gt;
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It was a frightening prospect, for even the rays from this system&apos;s sun were weak, lifeless; it seemed impossible that such a bleak and icy globe could ever have produced intelligent life... or so it seemed to a race that breathed gaseous sulfur and drank molten copper chloride. &lt;br&gt;
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For the world of ice was Earth! &lt;br&gt;
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Out of print</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:16:55 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: wannalol</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429509</link>	
  	<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allenandunwin.com/library/product.asp?ISBN=1741145449&quot;&gt;The Trudeau Vector&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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Elements of Lucifer by Michael Cordy take place in a research base in a cold climate.&lt;br&gt;
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There is this movie &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272036/&quot;&gt;Deep Freeze&lt;/a&gt; but it gets terrible reviews e.g. &amp;quot;Don`t Defrost This Turkey&amp;quot;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:22:50 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: dgeiser13</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429510</link>	
  	<description>There&apos;s the Icerigger series of books by Alan Dean Foster composed of Icerigger (1974), Mission to Moulokin (1979) and The Deluge Drivers (1987).</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:23:13 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: skrike</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429522</link>	
  	<description>not exactly SciFi but maybe the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671027387/qid=1132100886/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-3512756-0185769?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&quot;&gt;Deception Point&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:29:44 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: dhartung</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429537</link>	
  	<description>Niven&apos;s short &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/joebergeron/wait.htm&quot;&gt;Wait It Out&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;. &lt;i&gt;Brrr.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:41:26 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: poweredbybeard</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429545</link>	
  	<description>i second left hand of darkness, not only because it is what you are looking for (not necessarily at the beginning), but because it is a hauntingly beautiful piece of fiction.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:46:47 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: greatgefilte</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429552</link>	
  	<description>Well, there&apos;s always the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Mars&quot;&gt;Mars trilogy&lt;/a&gt;, by Kim Stanley Robinson. Mars can be a pretty cold place, I hear.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:54:04 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Kirth Gerson</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429574</link>	
  	<description>Second Hal Clement&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Iceworld&lt;/em&gt;. Good science.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:14:06 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: signal</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429579</link>	
  	<description>Second &lt;strong&gt;Antarctica&lt;/strong&gt;, well though out, involved; enthusiastically third &lt;strong&gt;Left Hand of Darkness&lt;/strong&gt;, gorgeous ideas and writing.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:16:41 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: spicynuts</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429582</link>	
  	<description>What about White Fang and the other Jack London books?  Alaska is cold.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:19:58 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: meehawl</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429583</link>	
  	<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=aldiss+helliconia&amp;btnG=Google+Search&quot;&gt;Brian Aldiss&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Helliconia&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 1980s trilogy is notable. It&apos;s a trilogy where the actually makes plot sense rather than satisfying some vague publishing/marketing shelf space dictate (although I&apos;m sure that played a part).&lt;br&gt;
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Helliconia is a planet with a complex and very long orbit. It spends a great deal of time almost completely frozen in an ice age. Then it spends several thousand years warming. There are two dominant species, both humanoid, but one very similar to homo sapiens (likes it warm), and one more like a kind of shaggy ape. Both species wax and wane according to the climate cycle, and the interaction between both species is mediated by a rather elaborate retrovirus that has evolved to periodically purge the populations and alter their dominant genotype to adapt them to the conditions. It&apos;s a kind of repetitive, punctuated, circular evolution. It&apos;s informed throughout by Aldiss&apos; magnificent skepticism about &amp;quot;progress&amp;quot;. The trilogy cycle is Spring-Summer-Winter. It plays with the notions of heroic fantasy, much the same way as, say, M John Harrison&apos;s Virconium.&lt;br&gt;
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Vernor Vinge used the same idea of a long-term cold/hot planetary orbit to great effect, as well, in his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22A+Deepness+in+the+Sky%22&amp;btnG=Google+Search&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;A Deepness in the Sky&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:20:23 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: squidlarkin</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429602</link>	
  	<description>Larry Niven&apos;s short story &lt;i&gt;Wait It Out&lt;/i&gt; takes place on Pluto.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:35:48 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Sonny Jim</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429617</link>	
  	<description>Peter Hoeg&apos;s &lt;i&gt;Miss Smilla&apos;s Feeling for Snow&lt;/i&gt;. (Obvious, though maybe marginal as far as s/f goes. I mean, it&apos;s fiction and it&apos;s got science in it...)&lt;br&gt;
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Craig Harrison&apos;s &lt;i&gt;Days of Starlight&lt;/i&gt; (1988), on the other hand, is first-rate science fiction set in Antarctica, but you&apos;ll never find a copy...</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:52:28 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: attercoppe</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429636</link>	
  	<description>Neal Stephenson&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Snow Crash&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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Just kidding. But an enthusiastic second to The Thing, which is really &amp;quot;Who Goes There?&amp;quot;, by John W. Campbell, Jr., writing as Don A. Stuart. Aliens and intrigue in Antarctica. (Found, among other places, in Avon&apos;s Science Fiction Hall of Fame Volume IIA, edited by Ben Bova.)</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:26:36 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: gaelenh</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429660</link>	
  	<description>Not science fiction, but &lt;a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0966712714&gt;Whiteout&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1929998031/&gt;Whiteout: Melt&lt;/a&gt; are two great comic book miniseries that take place in Antarctica.  The publisher, Oni Press, even has part of the first one online for &lt;a href=http://www.onipress.com/freecomic/&gt;free&lt;a /&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:43:47 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: gimonca</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429666</link>	
  	<description>Lovecraft, &amp;quot;At the Mountains of Madness&amp;quot;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:48:43 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Marit</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429694</link>	
  	<description>An enthusiastic third for The Thing.  I prefer John Carpenter&apos;s other &amp;quot;alien&amp;quot; movie (Starman) but The Thing has an amazing atmosphere.  The X-Files episode you mention was basically The Thing rehashed.&lt;br&gt;
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And I thought of A Pail of Air too!  Definitely read &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/27290#429498&quot;&gt;Capn&apos;s link&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:15:14 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: RoseovSharon</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429701</link>	
  	<description>The third part of His Dark Materials (The Amber Spyglass) by Philip Pullman involves some great adventures in a snowy land ruled by bears, with full on ice palaces and everything. Great series, I&apos;m pretty sure this ice world is only experienced in the 3rd book though (buts it&apos;s been a while since I read them).</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:19:44 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Hildago</title>
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  	<description>Well, a good chunk of &lt;i&gt;Frankenstein&lt;/i&gt;.  &lt;br&gt;
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But the first thing I thought of was a short story by Roger Zelazny called &lt;i&gt;The Keys to December&lt;/i&gt;, about some aliens terraforming a planet to make it cold enough for them to inhabit (and simultaneously freezing the monkey-people natives to death).</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:25:56 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: George_Spiggott</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429851</link>	
  	<description>&lt;i&gt;Neverness&lt;/i&gt; by Paul Zindell takes place largely on an ice world, with a very technologically advanced protagonist living among essentially stone age people.  A significant and (IMO) impressively writtern part of &lt;i&gt;Endymion&lt;/i&gt; by Dan Simmons also takes place on an ice world, but you really should read the two Hyperion novels first.  Alan Dean Foster wrote &lt;i&gt;Icerigger&lt;/i&gt;, which I have not read but it sort of looks like fun.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:53:39 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: sarahnade</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429890</link>	
  	<description>&lt;b&gt;RoseovSharon&lt;/b&gt;, I think the first book of the trilogy, The Golden Compass (US title), also has some scenes in the snowy northland (the compound with all the children in particular, I&apos;m thinking).  &lt;br&gt;
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Nonetheless, His Dark Materials is a great trilogy and I think worth reading in general.  The setting of the north pole area plays a large part in the plot, if that makes any difference.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:44:03 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: teleskiving</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#429939</link>	
  	<description>Another vote for &amp;quot;At the Mountains of Madness&amp;quot;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:51:53 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: QIbHom</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#432038</link>	
  	<description>Sonny Jim said:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
 &lt;em&gt;Peter Hoeg&apos;s Miss Smilla&apos;s Feeling for Snow.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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In the US, it was published as _Smilla&apos;s Sense of Snow_ and marketed as a mystery. It was a bit odd, but this SciFi reader likes odd.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:52:31 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: dott8080</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27290/Science-fiction-on-ice#435020</link>	
  	<description>This one&apos;s not scifi, more a thriller, but set in cold climates:&lt;br&gt;
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Alistair MacLean, &amp;quot;Ice Station Zebra&amp;quot;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:19:47 -0800</pubDate>
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