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	<title>Comments on: rembetika!</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:50:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: rembetika!</title>
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		<description>Hash dens and bouzoukis and raki, oh my!  Recommend me some great, old rembetika. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I used to have an album with some modern recordings of songs by Vasilis Tsitsanis, and an instrumental at the end played by the man himself, which I thought was by far the best&#8212;the other songs were more smooth-sounding.  My understanding is that it was much rougher-edged than that disc (can&apos;t recall what it was called) let on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:52:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kenko</dc:creator>
		
			<category>rembetika</category>
		
			<category>folk</category>
		
			<category>greek</category>
		
			<category>music</category>
		
			<category>greece</category>
		
			<category>turkey</category>
		
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		<title>By: zaelic</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27238/rembetika#428860</link>	
		<description>Tsitsanis is the linking figure between the older Rebetika and the more modern,popular style &quot;Laiki&quot; style - Rebetika usually uses the &lt;a href=&quot;http://dechiotification.rebetiko.org/&quot;&gt;three string bouzouki or djura&lt;/a&gt;,while the four-string is pretty much a post WWII axe. &lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://theory.rockefeller.edu/~giannak/reb.html&quot;&gt;Vamvakaris&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mustrad.org.uk/reviews/rembetic.htm&quot;&gt;Batis&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spectacularopticals.com/BER.html&quot;&gt;Papaioannou&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br&gt;
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Related,but equally hashish soaked is the Smyrnaica genre - songs &lt;a href=&quot;http://bolingo.org/audio/texts/fr133greeks.html&quot;&gt;dating from the era of Greek life in Turkey, &lt;/a&gt;especially Izmir. Essentially it is Turkish urban music played on oud, kanun, and violin with a woman singer, such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.btinternet.com/~judyin.london/rozaeskenazi/remb.htm&quot;&gt;Roza Ashkenazi&lt;/a&gt; or Rita Abatzis, both of whom were Jewish, in fact. &lt;br&gt;
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Far too much &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rootsworld.com/reviews/hydra.shtml&quot;&gt;good info, &lt;/a&gt;history etc at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/rebetology/&quot;&gt;Hydra Rebetika Conference &lt;/a&gt;site - got to the reports down on the page. &lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rounder.com/&quot;&gt;Rounder Records&lt;/a&gt; has some good &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rebetikorow.com/Rounder.htm&quot;&gt;reissues &lt;/a&gt;of the old stuff. &lt;br&gt;
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The 1983 Greek film &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.culture.gr/2/22/222/22200/1983/e2228305.html&quot;&gt;&quot;Rembetiko&quot; &lt;/a&gt;will blow your &lt;em&gt;kefi &lt;/em&gt;wide open. An &lt;a href=&quot;http://course.lib.uci.edu/ar/music/fa2003/200/bozo/&quot;&gt;amazing film &lt;/a&gt;made using unkown actors and surviving old rebetika musicians, it became a huge hit and can often be bought or rented at greek gift/book shops in the US. The soundtrack stands alone as one of the best examples of rebetika revival, too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:50:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zaelic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: OmieWise</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27238/rembetika#428874</link>	
		<description>zaelic-You&apos;re awesome with these kinds of questions.  Thanks for your answer about fiddle styles the other day.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 07:04:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: theora55</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27238/rembetika#428887</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sophiabilides.com/&quot;&gt;Sophia Bilides&lt;/a&gt; sings classic rembetika.  Haven&apos;t heard the cd, but she&apos;s a great performer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 07:15:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27238/rembetika#429157</link>	
		<description>Wow.  I was going to do a pale, denatured version of zaelic&apos;s comment, but now I can just say: what zaelic said.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;small&gt;*fondles collection of old rembetika records he picked up in Athens many years ago*&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:52:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>languagehat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Opposite George</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/27238/rembetika#429543</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;zaelic&lt;/b&gt;&apos;s answer rocks.*&lt;br&gt;
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Also check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000G5T5/104-0127782-7909577?v=glance&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mourmourika: Songs of the Greek Underworld&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; on Rounder for some gangsta stuff.  One minor nitpick is that   the translations sometimes bypass interesting colorful idiom.   Still, the CD is a good illustration of just how &lt;i&gt;hard core&lt;/i&gt; some of these dawgs claimed to be (think G.W.A. or Ice-Tau.)&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;small&gt;*Einai mangas, einai meraklis!&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:45:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Opposite George</dc:creator>
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