Is it me??
July 28, 2014 6:27 PM Subscribe
I need your job advice
posted by and hey Charlie to Work & Money (16 answers total) 4 users marked this as a favorite
I was in a job that had a toxic environment. People leaving left and right, dysfunction, micromanaging, backstabbing etc. I got a new job at a new co. which seemed amazing - everything I wanted and right in line with my experience and skill set. More responsibility in that I would be tasked with putting structure around what we do by developing and implementing processes and procedures as well as building new models around what we do. I also had to learn all the new systems as well as how they use them; the clients and their preferences/backgrounds as well as managing a lot of other office stuff for others like calendars, email and lots of stuff that just came up that was given to me with zero training and left up to me to figure it out.
My 4th week they told me they were disappointed that I hadn't put together processes and procedures as well as fully built the new models. They said I was supposed to hit the ground running. I did actually put together the models, but the subject matter requires a lot of research and I was told it was expected to know them in and out and could answer any question as to why I did it the way I did it etc. They knew I was an in-depth research person when I was hired - that's part of why they hired me. So that took about 2 weeks, with me checking in several times until I got it to them and that was "way too long". I think they expected me to do it in a couple of days and I could have thrown something together very quickly but then I wouldn't have really known on a deeper level why that was a good way to build it, which I was told was expected.
Also, I haven't put in place a whole process for certain things yet, but I've been sitting with people to see how they do things so I can get a feel for what I'm trying to change. All the while, they've been throwing other stuff at me to do nonstop with no explanation but quick deadlines. Most of these things I have had no experience with (which I did tell them in the interview process). So I've had to figure out how to do all this other stuff on my own, which literally takes 10x as long and obviously I can't focus on the process building. I've had to start asking the boss to help me prioritize what he gives me because everything is urgent and needs to get done right away.
This is my 6th week and they told me today they don't think I can do the job. I have done the exact things they want me to do in previous jobs and I know I can do it. They asked why I don't every come in early or work late. I told them I come in a half hour early most days and I've stayed late a few times, especially my first two weeks. I also rarely take lunch. I don't even leave my desk. Most everyone else arrives at 8 and leaves at 5, plus they told me that it was pretty much an 8-5 job in the interview so I thought it was okay to work 8-5 (though I do come in early most of the time).
They told me today I could resign with no hard feelings and they'd give me 4 weeks pay. I was horrified. They said they'd give me a few minutes to think about it and then I was supposed to let them know if I wanted to stay or go but if I passed up the opportunity to go, I would be under the microscope and heavily scrutinized and if didn't live up to expectations I would just be fired. I said I wanted to stay and work at it. This is mainly because I don't want to be fired but also because ever since week 4 I've known this is a bad job and I have an initial phone interview somewhere else tomorrow and I want to at least still have a job for that.
1. How long is a realistic time to learn a new job? I thought at the minimum I'd be given a good three months to get into the swing of things before I would be expected to have completed basically everything on my job description (develop and implement this, put that into place, etc). My job offer says that within three months I was supposed to basically have an understanding of systems, procedures and culture, which I think I'm on track for. It doesn't say I'm supposed to have put all these things into place by then.
2. I was leaving a bad environment and I'm in one that seems even worse and I am really upset that something might actually be really wrong with me. How can I tell if it's me or if it's the job? My last job and the job before that were all long-term, I left on good terms and I had excellent feedback.
3. I am really devastated and humiliated by this. It was supposed to be such a great opportunity and I was really excited about it. My last job has already been filled (not that I'd want to go back to that environment). I'm really hoping tomorrow's phone interview goes well, but if nothing comes of it, should I just quit? I just feel like I can't do anything right there (when I talk about certain things, such as illustrating my thought process in why I've constructed things the way I have, I'm not saying it right. When I write things, it's not good because it's not the way they would write it, so I'm a "bad writer", even though I gave them about 8 writing samples when I interviewed). I feel like they'll just bide their time until they can fire me. Is it worth it to wait so I can collect unemployment?
The week I put in my notice at my last job, several people (amounting to 25% of the total staff) quit. Even though they knew I was working my notice, they called and asked me to start early and it was awkward for me to say I'd like to finish up all the loose ends at my other job, as I had promised. It was kind of a red flag but it was too late for me to go back so I gave them the benefit of the doubt.
Quitting now wouldn't be a massive hardship, financially, but it wouldn't be great. I probably have a couple thousand dollars and that's it.
Any advice you could give would be great. I am really devastated over this and don't know what to do. Happy to answer any questions.