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What's a good movie to rent for a bunch of twelve year-old boys?
April 29, 2014 7:07 AM   Subscribe

My son will be having a birthday sleepover in a couple weeks so we will be hosting about six twelve year-old boys. In addition to feeding them and the Minecraft LAN party, we'd like to watch a movie with them. Suggestions?

Last year we watched Rat Race, which, other than the list of porn movie titles in the opening two minutes, was pretty much the perfect movie. Poop jokes, slapstick, car chases, good characters, etc.

What I'm looking for: Comedy, mostly clean, tons of laughs, not too dated, not animated. Preferably something my wife and I would enjoy as well, though we're willing to take one for the team.

Movies he's seen that would work if he hadn't seen them:
  • Airplane! (some of the references are a bit dated but it's otherwise perfect)
  • It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. (A bit long for a sleepover)
  • The Blues Brothers (Rated R, but would be PG-13 today)
  • Monty Python and the Holy Grail (this would work, but we have plans to watch it with a friend)
  • Anchorman and Anchorman II. (These would be perfect but most of the kids have seen them)
  • The Naked Gun.
  • The Three Stooges Movie.
  • Smokey and the Bandit (I watched this with him when he was nine, he stopped counting the word "shit" after 35, which took about ten minutes)
  • The Simpsons Movie (Funny, but I want something that'll stand on its own if you don't know the show)
  • Stand By Me, Indiana Jones (1 and 3), Star Wars 1-6, Close Encounters (not comedy)
I've thought about Top Secret!, but I think a lot of that might go over his head and I'm not sure I want to explain the Anal Intruder joke to somebody else's kid.

In terms of raunchiness, think Simpsons rather than Family Guy. Some raunchy humor is fine but I don't want it to be the entire point of the movie. Because these are other people's kids and there is a large disparity about what they are allowed to watch I'd like to stick to the PG-13ish side of the scale.

Movies should be available through Netflix streaming or iTunes rentals but I might be willing to pick up a cheap DVD as well.

Suggestions? I admit to not having seen a lot of Adam Sandler / Jim Carrey type films that would probably work.

Yes, I have asked him but he has no suggestions other than "Ted" and that's not gonna fly.
posted by bondcliff to Media & Arts (175 answers total) 17 users marked this as a favorite
 
My first thought was The Princess Bride.
posted by something something at 7:12 AM on April 29 [9 favorites]


Dumb and Dumber.
posted by punchtothehead at 7:13 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


Spaceballs!
posted by ActionPopulated at 7:13 AM on April 29 [18 favorites]


The man who knew too little! Its with bill Murray. Alternatively ghostbusters.
posted by Carillon at 7:16 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


Galaxy Quest
posted by gudrun at 7:17 AM on April 29 [12 favorites]


Police Academy.
The Tree Amigos.
(And if you tell me either of those are too dated I'm going into a corner to cry.)

But I think ActionPopulated has it with Spaceballs.
posted by Kabanos at 7:17 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Meatballs? It's dated, but rated PG. Beware, so is Sixteen Candles, and there's a bare breast in it and a lot of f-words. Quite the shock when I showed it in my English class, "MISS! TITTIES!" I haven't seen it in a while, so perhaps someone here can comment.

Spaceballs, or any Mel Brooks Movie, Blazing Saddles, perhaps?

Kids in my English class enjoyed, Galaxy Quest.

Grease was also a pretty good default movie, if you like seeing 30-year old high school kids.
posted by Ruthless Bunny at 7:18 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Kung Fu Hustle
posted by jquinby at 7:18 AM on April 29 [7 favorites]


..well I just checked it again and Kung Fu Hustle is rated R for mostly gonzo violence. The rundown is here.
posted by jquinby at 7:20 AM on April 29


The Goonies
posted by okay-quiet-time at 7:21 AM on April 29 [17 favorites]


The Goonies...kinda goes with minecraft as well...also maybe Galaxy Quest
posted by sexyrobot at 7:22 AM on April 29


Ace Ventura Pet Detective 2. That was watched many a time during sleepovers when I was a kid.
posted by littlesq at 7:23 AM on April 29


Goonies. Absolutely.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 7:24 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai!
posted by Confess, Fletch at 7:24 AM on April 29 [6 favorites]


Fantastic Mr. Fox
Joe Versus the Volcano
Hero
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 7:24 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Gremlins!
posted by Ruthless Bunny at 7:28 AM on April 29


The Sandlot
posted by Ms Vegetable at 7:29 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


Good suggestions, all, but just to nip these in the bud: (When I say "seen it" I mean he's seen it.)
posted by bondcliff at 7:30 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Shaun of the Dead.
posted by TWinbrook8 at 7:36 AM on April 29 [11 favorites]


Big Trouble in Little China!
posted by bfranklin at 7:37 AM on April 29 [12 favorites]


Seconding Shaun of the Dead. Also if Stand by Me is in your list (not tons of laughs) then Holes.
posted by headnsouth at 7:38 AM on April 29


Clue? The only really problematic content I can think of there is that one of the characters refers to another as a "fruit" because he's gay. Oh, and you might have to explain the word "schtupp".
posted by Janta at 7:38 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Napoleon Dynamite
posted by airing nerdy laundry at 7:39 AM on April 29 [4 favorites]


I see your objection to the Goonies but I promise you, it's PERFECT for this....One of my favorites!!! Other than the lack of cell phones in every scene...not dated at all...
posted by pearlybob at 7:40 AM on April 29 [7 favorites]


You tie these kids to the couch and you make them watch Princess Bride. Fencing, fighting, torture, revenge, giants, monsters, chases, escapes, true love, miracles.
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 7:40 AM on April 29 [17 favorites]


Honestly, for 12 year old boys I probably wouldn't pick anything made before 2000.

Good options:
Chicken Run
Kung Fu Panda
Shaun of the Dead
Napoleon Dynamite (seconded on preview)
The Muppets (2011)
Action movies? (ex: Spiderman/2, Iron Man... check the ratings)
The Lego Movie
posted by Flamingo at 7:44 AM on April 29


Riffing off of Anchorman, how about Talladega Nights?

Oh, and don't worry about kids not "getting" Galaxy Quest. Those tropes are baked into the collective consciousness at this point. Galaxy Quest is as accessible for Star Trek virgins as Airplane is for people who never saw the disaster movies of the '70s.
posted by Etrigan at 7:44 AM on April 29 [4 favorites]


Duck Soup
Young Frankenstein (though Mel Brooks, damn is it funny)
Three Stooges
posted by From Bklyn at 7:47 AM on April 29


Time Bandits!
posted by digiFramph at 7:49 AM on April 29 [10 favorites]


Bondcliff,
Innerspace, Batteries Not Included, Flight of the Navigator, Short Circuit 1, Short Circuit 2, The Jerk, Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, Three Amigos, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, Little Shop of Horrors, Strange Brew...
posted by Nanukthedog at 7:50 AM on April 29


School of Rock
The Sandlot
National Treasure
posted by Pater Aletheias at 7:51 AM on April 29


Night at the Museum (I or II)
posted by jquinby at 7:56 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Are you 100% wedded to the idea of a movie they've never seen before? Especially for a bunch of growing nerds, re-watching a favorite could be fun. (And if there was a way to hide the title from them, Princess Bride would be perfect!)

And here's an oldie but goodie: Errol Flynn's 1930s version of Robin Hood -- a classic!
posted by easily confused at 7:56 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Life of Brian
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 7:57 AM on April 29


Stardust is hilarious, slapstick, and clean (mostly-there's one dirty joke but 12-year old's might not get it).
posted by Enchanting Grasshopper at 7:59 AM on April 29


Man, you are sure getting some weird and inappropriate answers so far ... I would suggest "Grown Ups," which is absolutely terrible but my 11-year-old son and his buddies can watch it on repeat. You will truly be taking one for the team, as it were.
posted by jbickers at 8:00 AM on April 29


Liar Liar

Mean Girls

I remember thinking Happy Gilmore was total genius when I was a kid, but I haven't watched it recently.
posted by Narrative Priorities at 8:03 AM on April 29


I'm not sure I want to explain the Anal Intruder joke to somebody else's kid.

I'm pretty sure a 12 year old boy would be the optimal go-to resource if one needed an explanation of the anal intruder joke.

they're all pedantic nerds

Anything by Monty Python is a winner. It also sounds like the Goonies would be great for them.

How about a Chris Farley film or something from the days when Tom Hanks was funny?
posted by The 10th Regiment of Foot at 8:05 AM on April 29


Ferris Bueller for sure! My just-turned-11yo nearly fell off the couch laughing when she saw it for the first time. Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure might play well also.
posted by Flannery Culp at 8:06 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


"Support your local Sheriff" is one of the funniest movies I think I've ever seen. I'm sure that 12 year old boys would love it. James Garner at his best. Plus Harry Morgan, Jack Elam, Walter Brennan, Bruce Dern, and Joan Hackett.
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 8:07 AM on April 29 [4 favorites]


Planes, Trains, and Automobiles

Animal House

Christopher Guest's oeuvre- I'm guessing "This is Spinal Tap" would work best.

nthing Monty Python, specifically "And Now for Something Completely Different"
posted by damayanti at 8:11 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


My sons loved The Last Starfighter, Legend of Zorro (the version with Antonio Banderas and Catherine Zeta-Jones), and Shanghai Noon.
posted by angiep at 8:12 AM on April 29


Rush Hour!
posted by stinkfoot at 8:13 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


I thought Animal House as well.
posted by Ruthless Bunny at 8:14 AM on April 29


Die Hard
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 8:14 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


Are you 100% wedded to the idea of a movie they've never seen before?

Not 100%, but I'd prefer it. It will be tough to find a film that all the kids haven't seen before and yeah, most of them probably won't mind seeing something again. Still, it would be nice to find something new.

Of the suggestions so far, he's seen:

Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Napoleon Dynamite
Three Stooges
The Muppets (2011)
The Lego Movie
And Now for Something Completely Different
Rat Race

Not suggested yet, but he's also seen War Games. I've been educating him on the classics, you see.

Life of Brian. Some day. That day is not today. Plus, the whole Other People's Kids thing. Ditto Meaning of Life. We just this weekend saw a great community theater production of Spamalot! (Concord Players, next two weekends. Go see it!)

For reasons that I won't get into, we're not looking for any animated movies, clay, CGI, or otherwise.

Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure. I've thought about this one but I'm not sure it would hold up. It seems very stuck in a certain time in the 1990s, even though it's about time travel.

Animal House, while funny, is kind of pushing the envelope of what's appropriate. Caddyshack would be similar. Staying away from R ratings for this one.

Man, you are sure getting some weird and inappropriate answers so far

Eh, they're all good. I asked for suggestions and that's what I'm getting. There is a huge variation in twelve year-old boys, so out of this thread I will pick something that is right for these particular boys. Someone down the road might find something else for some other twelve year old boys and/or girls.

I'm pretty sure a 12 year old boy would be the optimal go-to resource if one needed an explanation of the anal intruder joke.

I know, but my wife will turn to me and give me that look that says "Um... really?" and I don't wanna get that look if I can avoid it. She's got a lot of rehearsals coming up, The Critter and I will watch it one of these nights.

Some of these are good suggestions but they're not comedies. I really want to stick with a comedy because a bunch of twelve year-old boys laughing hysterically over stupid jokes is one of the greatest sights ever.

Also, I can assure you, all of my preferences expressed, other than "not Ted and movies like Ted" are based on knowing my son and knowing what he likes and doesn't like. I'm not trying to be some all-controlling dad, I promise.
posted by bondcliff at 8:19 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


Holes (Not a comedy, but age appropriate like Stand By me)
Goonies (can never be "dated")
I'm Gonna get you Sucka. (spoofs several genre's and lots of goofy visual fx)
The "Police Squad" TV shows, there were only 6 1/2 hour shows.
Pee Wee's Big Adventure.
posted by Gungho at 8:22 AM on April 29


nthing The Goonies. It doesn't actually have many cultural references in it and it really is fun.

Shaun of the Dead has quite a few cunts and many many fucks

I wouldn't show that to a twelve year old (nor, in hindsight, to my 86 year old grandmother-in-law).
posted by tonylord at 8:23 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


Not Goonies! It does not hold up! The acting is terrible, and the Asian-American character is wince worthy.
posted by umbĂș at 8:26 AM on April 29 [5 favorites]


I think I was about that age when I saw Weekend at Bernie's. Or maybe it was Weekend at Bernie's 2. The first is PG-13, the second is PG. (And seeing the first one was definitely not required for seeing the second). I think 12 year old boys would get a kick out of the dead-guy hi-jinks and other shenanigans.
posted by Weeping_angel at 8:27 AM on April 29


I tried to watch Goonies the other day on a nostalgia kick, and I'd say maybe 12 year old boys could enjoy it like I did when I was 12, but man it's unwatchable for me now. Every kid just yells all the time, NOTHING BUT YELLING.
posted by mathowie at 8:27 AM on April 29 [5 favorites]


The Goonies. I've never seen it myself (I KNOW!) but I have a feeling it's a bit dated and I know the gist of it and I know my son and... I don't think so.

bondcliff i am sorry but you are bad and your son is also bad


What about the Mummy series? (Mummy, Mummy Returns, Scorpion King, and nothing else, there are no other movies in this series, what a shame)
posted by elizardbits at 8:27 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


What about Encino Man? It's PG, but might be pretty dated. Still, a caveman in modern times is always fun!
posted by Weeping_angel at 8:29 AM on April 29


Shaun of the Dead has quite a few cunts and many many fucks

Yeah, no. He knows those words, I'm quite sure he says those words (though not usually around me), but I'm not going to watch a film filled with those words. Plus, there's the Other People's Kids thing. I can decide what is appropriate for my son but I'm not going to decide that for others. I'd prefer something I won't need to ask permission or forgiveness for.

Not Goonies! It does not hold up! The acting is terrible, and the Asian-American character is wince worthy.

That's sort of what I'm afraid of.

bondcliff i am sorry but you are bad and your son is also bad

I KNOW!
posted by bondcliff at 8:30 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


Eddie Murphy's The Nutty Professor. I remember my brother being about that age and laughing his head off at the fart scene. Then rewinding and watching and laughing again. Oldie but a goodie!
posted by jillithd at 8:45 AM on April 29


Any of the Pink Panther movies with Peter Sellers (NOT the newer ones with Steve Martin.)
posted by Daily Alice at 8:50 AM on April 29


The Last Action Hero? Action/Comedy
posted by Carillon at 8:52 AM on April 29


I tried to make my teenagers watch Bill and Ted and they begged to be allowed to leave and to finish homework instead. It did not hold up. And then you're left saying, "Oh c'mon, Mr. The Kid?! That's awesome! No?" They do love Galaxy Quest, Princess Bride and Three Amigos though. My daughter made all her friends watch Three Amigos at her birthday party once. We bought her a sweater so she could unwrap it and say "It's a sweater!"

Holy Grail does have the part with the oral sex and spankings in Castle Anthrax.
posted by artychoke at 8:52 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


nthing the Pink Panther. It's a great selection as well!
posted by Carillon at 8:52 AM on April 29


My kids also loved Die Hard.
posted by artychoke at 8:52 AM on April 29


Adam Sandler/Chris Farley movies are good 12-year-old boy vehicles. Someone mentioned Happy Gilmore, but there's also Billy Madison, and Tommy Boy and Black Sheep are both goofy fun.
posted by chowflap at 8:53 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


Delicatessen and The City of Lost Children might make an interesting choice. I'd have loved them when I was 12. Admittedly, I wasn't a typical 12-year-old...
posted by pipeski at 8:54 AM on April 29


Comedy's hard at that age. What's hilarious to one kid is dorky and dull to another. The closer to stay to current cinema, the better luck you'll have.

How about a coming-of-age film? Submarine, Scott Pilgrim, The Way Way Back, The Perks Of Being A Wallflower, or even Juno? All recent and interesting.

FWIW, when I was 12, Demolition Man, Die Hard, Speed, True Lies and Terminator 2 were the apex of party cinema.
posted by Magnakai at 8:54 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Ping Pong Playa (2007) is funny in a silly way and pretty clean. Currently available on Netflix.
posted by vignettist at 9:00 AM on April 29


Wayne's World

Bowfinger

Mr. Deeds
posted by fourpotatoes at 9:02 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


What about Silverado? Not a comedy per se, but it does have a fair amount of humor in it. It's a good rousing Western, lots of action, satisfying story, rated PG-13.
posted by ambrosia at 9:02 AM on April 29


You might not want to do 'Airplane!' unless you want explain the "Don't Panic" scene to the parents (which includes multiple bullshits, a topless woman...)

By the way - this is a game my wife and I play. She suggests a movie to watch with the kids and I list all the scenes off the top of my head that we don't want my kids seeing/repeating. Yet.

Ghostbusters (I'm waiting for my son to get older. I can wait a few years before I hear dick jokes non-stop)

Galaxy Quest stands on its own since the Star Trek/Space Opera trope is very well spread.

Nthing Pink Panther movies especially Return of the Pink Panther.

Raiders of the Lost Ark
posted by plinth at 9:04 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


Beetlejuice
posted by FreezBoy at 9:06 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


Dude, Where's my Car? It's pg-13 and while a stoner comedy, there's no actual drug use that I recall.
posted by infinitewindow at 9:07 AM on April 29


Seconding Time Bandits - the Python fans will have fun spotting the likes of Michael Palin and John Cleese in occasional supporting roles.

How about Buckaroo Banzai?

(And I'm as surprised as you are that people have recommended Life of Brian and Meaning of Life, considering the full frontal nudity of both genders in each movie respectively.)
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 9:11 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


A couple more ideas to toss on the pile: Addams Family Values, Crocodile Dundee
posted by drlith at 9:15 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


Also in general I think every movie the Rock has made has been PG or PG-13, and they are usually pretty entertaining. The Rundown is good in so many ways, not least of which is Christopher Walken chewing an entire jungle's worth of scenery.

And really what 12 year old boy doesn't like to see the heroes of the movie get humped by angry baboons? None, that's who.
posted by elizardbits at 9:19 AM on April 29 [4 favorites]


Rocketman? Harland Williams as a geeky scientist who gets to be part of the first team of astronauts to land on Mars. It's PG, so maybe it's a little young? But it's great tween-boy humor -- fart jokes, slapstick, etc. -- and it also has a surprising amount of heart. My entire family has a weird love for it, including my 60-something parents. We all quote it regularly.

It came out in 1997, so I'm sure some of it's dated (been a few years since I last saw it). But most of it is related to the space program; a lot of the training sequences hold up really well.
posted by QuickedWeen at 9:20 AM on April 29


Double recommendation for Adams Family and the sequal. Amazing and appropriate for all ages.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 9:26 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Yeah, not Goonies. Also, think twice about Three Amigos. I loved it as a kid, but now I realize how much of the humor is "ha ha, a Mexican accent!"

Have you considered Superbad? It's rated R, however, so you might preview it. Happy Gilmore is a classic.
posted by salvia at 9:30 AM on April 29


I saw Blades of Glory recently and though it was mildly inappropriate it was relatively light on gross out humor and cursing.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 9:31 AM on April 29


The Goonies is about as comedic as Indiana Jones, FYI. It's worth watching later though (not at this party; you should go with your gut or else you'll be kicking yourself if it doesn't work). The American of Asian extraction is a good, smart kid who's part of the gang, and just happens to be FOB. It's of it's time, but I didn't find it disrespectful.

Please watch Bill and Ted sometime.

Oh! The Addam's Family and it's sequel are great!

Big Trouble in Little China is about as funny as Indiana Jones, but in a different way.

Beetlejuice is great, please consider it.
posted by Poppa Bear at 9:32 AM on April 29


Jack Blacks made a couple great movies for teen-agers I think: especially School of Rock and Nacho Libre (especially good if the kid liked Napolea Dynamite.)
posted by Potomac Avenue at 9:32 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


I demand that you show them Weird Al's UHF. It is very funny. I loved it as a kid, and I still love it now. I consider myself a fairly high-brow lady but god damn if that movie doesn't have me laughing out loud. The Rambo scene... my god it is hilarious. Wheel of Fish? And Spatula City?! I STILL sing that theme song every time I get a spatula out of the utensils drawer.

Bonus points: Michael Richards (ie. Seinfeld's Kramer) plays a starring role and he is HILARIOUS. He is obsessed with his mop. Enough said. Part of me gets legit sad when he has his mop taken from him. Dude loves his mop. Its great when he gets it back.


Also, I'm pretty sure it is on Netflix.
posted by PuppetMcSockerson at 9:34 AM on April 29 [7 favorites]


This is a list of Greatest Fart Jokes in Movie History. Your basic underlying premise here with 12yo boys is which PG movie has the most fart jokes, quality notwithstanding.

Lake Placid (R for violence, language -- mostly out of Betty White's grandmotherly mouth)
Sharknado
Godzilla, any
City Slickers
posted by maggieb at 9:40 AM on April 29


Beetlejuice! I first saw it when I was five, and I've always loved it. My sisters and cousins loved Adam Sandler movies at that age. And Ace Ventura. (And looking back at some of the ideas I dismissed, I realized my parents did not supervise what we watched in any way whatsoever.)

Home Alone. Maybe a bit too young.

Ernest Scared Stupid, or others. I think they are pretty timeless/don't contain many references.
posted by catatethebird at 9:40 AM on April 29


Also, yes, The Mummy - humor, horror, action. I think it would be great for 12 year old boys, and I can't think of anything really inappropriate in it.
posted by catatethebird at 9:45 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Oh, and before you get all "Dude, 1989??" please trust that the age of it doesn't make it any less magnificent. For real. It is so funny. Seeing if poodles can fly? (spoiler: they can't). Twinkie Weiner Sandwich? Ghandi II? The epic Indiana Jones opening!?!? EVERYTHING IN THAT MOVIE IS FANTASTIC!!!!

Not showing these boys UHF would be a horrible horrible disservice. It would be as bad as never letting them taste chocolate. THAT is how much these boys need to watch this movie. Hell, YOU need to watch this movie. Just give in. I'm right. Trust me. There are lots of good suggestions in this thread but I have the only worthy, correct answer to your question. UHF is what you need to show them. The end.

Allow these boys the magical experience of seeing this magic piece of cinematic magic.



Christ, I love this effing movie. I actually just messaged my husband saying "We are watching UHF tonight. No discussion.". I want my work day to be done RIGHT NOW so that I can go home and watch it.
posted by PuppetMcSockerson at 9:45 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


Here's a list:

Back to the Future, Big, Groundhog Day, Jurassic Park, The Karate Kid (the original), Rudy, Raiders of the Lost Ark and all the other Indiana Jones movies, National Lampoon's Vacation, X-Men series, Dodgeball, Zoolander, Willy Wonka & the Cholocate Factory (1971), Dick Tracy (1990).
posted by ATX Peanut at 9:46 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Zoolander!
posted by ChuraChura at 9:49 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


School of Rock
Talledega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby
posted by ainsley at 9:49 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


School of Rock is a pretty good film for the tween/early teen set. Jack Black is more subdued than usual, the jokes and language are appropriate, and it's got a nice little message buried in there, too.
posted by Georgina at 9:50 AM on April 29 [5 favorites]


I was thinking Zoolander as well but I personally would not want to explain a dwarf supermodel orgy scene to the parents of my son's friends.
posted by elizardbits at 9:51 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


UHF is why I scream "SPATULA CITY!" anytime I see a spatula in a store, and it's why I'm going to show it to my kid tomorrow after we finish Joe Versus the Volcano.
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 9:52 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


School of Rock is a great choice!
posted by Magnakai at 9:53 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


A little dated but my 12 year old son LOVED LOVED LOVED Wayne's World.
posted by Lucinda at 9:54 AM on April 29


This is exactly the audience for whom Pacific Rim was made. GIANT ROBOTS FIST-FIGHTING WITH GIANT SEA MONSTERS.
posted by DWRoelands at 9:54 AM on April 29 [6 favorites]


I'm going to go with strapping them to the couch and making them watch the Princess Bride. Also, Be Kind Rewind is very silly and only has a little language and no sex, drug use, etc.
posted by cnc at 9:56 AM on April 29


Dirty Rotten Scoundrels with Steve Martin and Michael Cain is pretty funny and not too racy (it's PG). Really pretty funny and the humor is a mix between slapstick and wordplay.
posted by Carillon at 9:58 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


The original "The In-Laws" is pretty funny as well.
posted by Carillon at 10:00 AM on April 29


I just remembered "Conan the Librarian" from UHF. Oh my god, I love this movie. I have been having a terrible few days but the prospect of seeing this movie tonight has totally made me feel less world-hatey.

Okay, I'm done. I trust you understand have realized by now that UHF is the movie you need to show them.




After you show them UHF, other movies I loved when I was their age was "Weekend at Bernie's". Yes, I know, incredibly morbid but it is a classic. And "What about Bob?". Also, "The Sandlot". I still do the repeat "FOR-EV-ER! FOR-EV-ER!"
posted by PuppetMcSockerson at 10:01 AM on April 29


I know these kids, they're all pedantic nerds

MST3K. Show the movie, but have a few Joel (Puma Man) and Mike (Space Mutiny) on hand, just in case of further demand.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 10:01 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


Hmm, I am a terrible person, but I don't know about UHF or the Goonies. I think they're too dated.

How about Elf? (Too Christmas-y?) School of Rock would be good. I also like the Jurassic Park idea. Maybe Men In Black?
posted by umwhat at 10:07 AM on April 29


Not Goonies. It was shown every time we had a substitute teacher, it was shown every time it rained during camp, I don't think I ever understood it, and I'm sure the awful Asian caricature ("Data") didn't help.

I remember stumbling onto Start the Revolution Without Me in the library with my mother in middle school, and we all loved it. Even NYT says it's PG (though also "not for children").
posted by batter_my_heart at 10:11 AM on April 29


I demand that you show them Weird Al's UHF

This is one of the few DVDs I own. We've seen it a couple of times and, yes, we both love it. I took him to see Weird Al in concert a few months ago (because that's the sort of dad I am) and he showed a couple clips from it while he was back doing costume changes.

Also, we moved my mom out of her house last fall and had a garage sale at her house. Some old guy drove up in a motherfucking Nash Metropolitan and drove away with some furniture sticking out of the trunk.

It was a pretty magical moment.

Anyway, UHF is a pretty good suggestion. I will ask him if he wants to watch it but he may be a bit UHF'd out.

Two movies that, while pretty good suggestions, just aren't gonna happen this time around are The Goonies and Princess Bride. Because of reasons.
posted by bondcliff at 10:16 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


Not a comedy, but since some of your examples aren't comedies: My nerdling tween loves Super 8. I think of it as Spielberg that is dated in the other direction, if that makes sense.

And of all the suggestions in this thread, she would nth Sandlot, Sharknado and MST3K the hardest. (What drew her into the last one, in case you want to test in advance, were some of the short film RiffTrax.)
posted by gnomeloaf at 10:24 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


The Dudley Do-Right with Brendan Fraser in it was my FAVORITE MOVIE when I was 12. I tried to watch it recently and the only scene that really held up for me was one with Eric Idle in it...

Men In Black would be great, too.
posted by coppermoss at 10:24 AM on April 29


Hot Fuzz?
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs?
posted by philipy at 10:24 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


This is one of the few DVDs I own.

Aaaaaaand I now think you are awesome.



I will ask him if he wants to watch it but he may be a bit UHF'd out.

Don't ask him. Just do it. Even if your son is a bit UHF'd out his friends aren't, and my god won't they have a lot of inside jokes and one-liners to share after seeing it!! UHF is ready made for friendship bonding for just that reason. UHF references are like nerd secret handshakes.

And your son won't be UHF'd out while he laughs along with his friends who have (most likely) never seen it, plus it is fun being all "WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!".
posted by PuppetMcSockerson at 10:27 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


The Great Race made me laugh so hard when I was 12 as well. It was really funny, a lot of things I liked at that age, slapstick, absurd situations etc.
posted by Carillon at 10:28 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


What about any of the recent Marvel movies? Avengers, Captain America, Iron Men 1-3, Thor... Sure to please a bunch of 12-y-os, even if some of them have seen them all before.
posted by coppermoss at 10:31 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Give The 'Burbs a try. It's about grown-ups behaving like children, and it's hilarious.
posted by doctornecessiter at 10:35 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


My kids also loved Die Hard.

Bruce Willis: "Yippie-ki-yay, moth--"

Me: "TIME FOR BED!"
posted by wenestvedt at 10:41 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


If they were Cub Scouts, then Down And Derby is funny (if a little bit square).

(Do people still say "square"? I am it.)
posted by wenestvedt at 10:42 AM on April 29


How about a movie they have seen, plus a RiffTrax commentary?
posted by wenestvedt at 10:44 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


How about the HBO series (check your library for the DVDs!) "From the Earth to the Moon"? AFAIK know it's clean, plus it shows them a new side of an achievement -- the space race -- that they probably always took for granted.
posted by wenestvedt at 10:46 AM on April 29


(magnifying glass) Tremors ^V Phrase not found

Ok, how about that one?
posted by furiousthought at 10:47 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


If you can stand to have O.P.K. hear the word "shit," then showing them several episodes of the YouTube-only series "Roadkill" might be perfect. See
https://www.metafilter.com/129136/Best-day-at-work-ever and https://www.metafilter.com/138242/Recreational-Vehicles
posted by wenestvedt at 10:50 AM on April 29


Gremlins!

very much a twelve year old's world view, but so is Gremlins 2, and it's a better movie.
posted by philip-random at 10:54 AM on April 29


I don't have a problem, and I don't think the other parents would have a problem, with the Airplane!-ish style of "naked boob flashed across the screen for two seconds", a few shits, or the occasional "fuck" if used properly. Think of the Edie McClurg "you're fucked" rental car scene in Planes, Trains, and Automobiles... that's ok. I can't explain it, but it's just ok because it's used in a funny way, unlike, say, a Kevin Smith film where they use "fuck" like it's punctuation. I'm raising him to know that occasional swearing is fine, like when you stub your toe or lose your house in a game of craps.

He's not at all into action heroes, super heroes, or comic books. Comic strips, he likes, but he's seen most of the good Charlie Brown movies and specials a billion times.

Comic-ish violence is ok, graphic or excessive violence isn't. No Die Hard or Terminators just yet, thanks.

How about the HBO series "From the Earth to the Moon"?

Another great thing I own on DVD. I've been suggesting we watch it together, but for the sleepover I'd only be able to show them the first couple episodes and I don't think the kids would be interested in watching the Kennedy administration sit in a conference room or a bunch of people investigating the Apollo 1 fire. That's gonna be a father/son moment.

As far as MST2K and Rifftrax, I'd prefer the kids make up their own commentary, which they freakin' LOVE to do at this age. I don't know how many times my son has claimed he could see the strings during a CGI space sequence, but it's well over seventy thousand.

Thanks to everyone who has suggested anything so far. These aren't all correct, but they're all good. Most of them, anyway.
posted by bondcliff at 10:57 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Futurama did some fairly stand-alone "movie" seasons which are self contained: Bender's Big Score, The Beast with a Billion Backs, Bender's Game and Into the Wild Green Yonder.
posted by Poldo at 10:58 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


What about Raising Arizona or O Brother Where Art Thou?
posted by furiousthought at 11:02 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


I actually liked the movie "Miracle" about the 1980 Olympic hockey team (except for Herbie Brooks's awful sportcoats), but then I am from Minnesota and my older relatives knew a lot of the people.
posted by wenestvedt at 11:06 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


On the Will Ferrell theme, I thought the Other Guys was pretty funny.

Men In Black is quite good, nthing that suggestion.
posted by Carillon at 11:07 AM on April 29


nthing Raising Arizona....
posted by pearlybob at 11:08 AM on April 29


Big. Jurassic Park. Roibin Hood: Men in Tights.
posted by kathrynm at 11:08 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


What about a WWII chestnut, like "The Great Escape"?

Does "Master & Commander" have objectionable parts? The scenes of ships fighting were awesome.

(BTW, I laughed so hard at some of the "Roadkill" episodes when I had the flu last week that I thought I was suffocating. Really consider that.)
posted by wenestvedt at 11:09 AM on April 29


What about Raising Arizona

Sitting him down to watch his first Coen Brothers film, Raising Arizona, was one of the happiest moments of my life. Up there with seeing him ride a bike for the first time.

That said, I don't think the kids would really dig O' Brother. Maybe we'll all watch No Country For Old Men.

I kid.

Oh yeah, we've also seen all the Back to the Future films, which I'm actually surprised nobody has suggested.

Does Austin Powers hold up? What about for kids that probably haven't seen any James Bond movies?
posted by bondcliff at 11:16 AM on April 29


Came to say The Rundown but elizardbits beat me to it. She is right. My boys (one that age, and one over 50) can NOT GET ENOUGH of that movie. It's really pretty funny.
posted by evilmomlady at 11:19 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


If there are any movies you would not show Other People's Kids, the Austin Powers movies are those movies. You will never hear the end of "Shagadelic!" and "Do I make you horrrrny, baaaaby?" and suchlike from 12-year-olds.
posted by Etrigan at 11:19 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


I am neither a boy nor a 12 year old . . . but what about the 2009 Star Trek movie? Not a comedy, but I loved this movie because it really had everything - lots of funny lines, tons of action, etc.
posted by Sassyfras at 11:25 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


Also, a little side note - (I am the parent of three children age 7-13) - I always appreciate getting a heads up to what movie is being shown PRIOR to the party, so that I can preview it for appropriateness for my child.
posted by Sassyfras at 11:26 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


What about for kids that probably haven't seen any James Bond movies?

Agreed that Austin Powers is NOT something you should show other people's kids. I would beat you with a stick if my son came home saying stuff like "Do I make you horrrrny, baby?". It is bad enough having him sing "Heeeeeyyyy Sexy lady!" from Gangum Style...

James Bond, however, is great. My husband is currently showing our 7 year old the James Bond films and jesus christ does he love it. I'm not entirely comfortable with it, I think he is too young to be watching stuff like that (I've banned any Daniel Craig ones until he is much older), but it is their boy bonding thing. Whenever I leave the house for an extended period they immediately watch a James Bond movie. They watched Goldfinger last weekend. Very very popular.

He really liked Moonraker and The Spy Who Loved Me. (He liked Jaws.) Man with the golden gun was also extremely well received, third nipples and all that. He hasn't watched "You Only Live Twice" but I imagine with all the ninjas and stuff it would be popular.



Have you considered some really old kung-fu movies with bad voice dubbing? (after you show them UHF, of course) Who doesn't love that!!
posted by PuppetMcSockerson at 11:26 AM on April 29


Yeah, been many years since I've seen the Austin Powers films. Thanks for reminding me.

Yes, we'll know the film ahead of time and give people a head's up. I also generally check the IMDB parent guide to any questionable film.
posted by bondcliff at 11:27 AM on April 29


Swiss Family Robinson is pretty great too. Adventure-y and funny. Also what about Tropic Thunder?
posted by Carillon at 11:31 AM on April 29


The problem is that a lot of these movies which we saw and enjoyed as kids were probably seen and enjoyed more times on basic cable than they were on premium cable. So all of the R rated stuff was edited out, and we don't remember it.

for example the first time in my life that i saw the nude karate kicks in front of the mirror scene in die hard 2 was last year.
posted by elizardbits at 11:32 AM on April 29 [3 favorites]


for example the first time in my life that i saw the nude karate kicks in front of the mirror scene in die hard 2 was last year.

There are nude karate kicks in Die Hard 2?!! The fact that I had no idea makes me pretty confident that elizardbits is on to something here.
posted by PuppetMcSockerson at 11:34 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Dodgeball would also be I big hit nthing that!
posted by Carillon at 11:34 AM on April 29 [2 favorites]


Stand by Me is old, but a great coming of age movie.
posted by annsunny at 11:44 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


As far as MST2K and Rifftrax, I'd prefer the kids make up their own commentary, which they freakin' LOVE to do at this age. I don't know how many times my son has claimed he could see the strings during a CGI space sequence, but it's well over seventy thousand.

Depending on the nerd-level of the gathering, sounds like a great idea. You can get a copy of Santa Claus Conquerors the Martians or Night of the Lepus and let them have at it. Record their output, Rifftrax-style, and give it back to them in the morning as a party favor.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 11:47 AM on April 29 [1 favorite]


I adored any of the Addams family movies and Back to the Future at that age, but let's see, my brother at age 12 really liked:

Adam Sandler movies, especially Billy Madison and the Waterboy
Jim Carrey movies, especially Ace Ventura, the Mask, Liar Liar
Crocodile Dundee
The Sandlot
Napoleon Dynamite
posted by PearlRose at 12:13 PM on April 29


My own kid's rewatchables were the National Lampoon Vacation movies, Tim Allen movies, the Home Alone series, Mrs. Doubtfire, Homeward Bound

-------
Other thoughts:
I.Q. (Walter Matthau as Albert Einstein playing Cupid to Meg Ryan and Tim Robbins)
Weird Science
Ice Pirates
Secondhand Lions
posted by maggieb at 12:22 PM on April 29


The problem is that a lot of these movies which we saw and enjoyed as kids were probably seen and enjoyed more times on basic cable than they were on premium cable. So all of the R rated stuff was edited out, and we don't remember it.


Years ago I was babysitting a couple of boys, maybe 8 and 10 years old, and a Saturday Afternoon at the Movies version of "Blazing Saddles" was on. They'd bowdlerized basically everything *but* the fart jokes.

It was perfect for that audience. Don't know how you would find that kind of thing, though.
posted by ambrosia at 12:27 PM on April 29


"Real Genius" is good.

Which reminds me: the great crew at The Incomparable podcast did an episode on media that nerds want to show their kids. They discuss which aged well and which are perhaps gilded in our memory *cough*.
Believe it or not, some of us have managed to breed successfully. Even Steve Lutz. So we talk about what media we provide for our kids. Topics include dealing with the Star Wars prequels, Spongebob Squarepants, how young you need to be to watch "Apocalypse Now" or "The Exorcist," why "Tron: Legacy" cost Ben dearly, why John became a master weaponsmith in his childhood, Jason's debates with his son over whether Spider-Man or Batman is better, Lisa's childhood reading of "The Godfather," picking video games for your kids, and how your children's peers will just ruin them anyway.
Very worth listening to: http://5by5.tv/incomparable/104
posted by wenestvedt at 12:33 PM on April 29


"Real Genius" is good.

Oh, thanks! That is the one with the popcorn I meant when I mistyped Weird Science.
posted by maggieb at 12:39 PM on April 29 [1 favorite]


I second "The Other Guys" (more recent Will Farrell comedy), which is legit funny and as a bonus has tons of car chase action stuff.
posted by chowflap at 12:40 PM on April 29


I think Rush Hour would be a great choice. Intercultural hijinks, martial arts action, Jackie Chan! What more could you want?

I also think the more kid-friendly Nick Cage moves could work (National Treasure, Sorcerer's Apprentice). They're totally cheesy with minimal redeeming value but I think they're brainlessly enjoyable.
posted by that girl at 12:42 PM on April 29


The problem is that a lot of these movies which we saw and enjoyed as kids were probably seen and enjoyed more times on basic cable than they were on premium cable. So all of the R rated stuff was edited out, and we don't remember it.

This is what happened to me with Sixteen Candles. I saw it in the theater when it first came out, but had watched it multiple times on TV in the intervening years. Then I found a copy. I swear, it's rated PG. Complete with boobs and f-words.

Holy moly did that come out of the VCR in a hot hurry that day, "Miss! I wanna see the tittie movie!"
posted by Ruthless Bunny at 12:46 PM on April 29


Agreeing with others: we watched "Return of the Pink Panther" this weekend and my 11-year-old loved it.

Note: Closeau calls Kato "yellow" once or twice and refers to his "yellow skin." I let it go -- I don't know if my kids even noticed -- but it is there. It's rated G, and has only the mildest of innuendo.
posted by The corpse in the library at 12:49 PM on April 29


Oh, and even though it's a sequel you don't have to see any other Pink Panther movies first.
posted by The corpse in the library at 12:51 PM on April 29


> This is what happened to me with Sixteen Candles. I saw it in the theater when it first came out, but had watched it multiple times on TV in the intervening years. Then I found a copy. I swear, it's rated PG. Complete with boobs and f-words

Plus it has Long Duck Dong, who was cringeworthy even when it first came out.
posted by The corpse in the library at 12:54 PM on April 29 [1 favorite]


The Other Guys is really funny, but I wouldn't recommend it for twelve year olds what with the swearing and grandmother sex talk scene

My suggestions that I haven't seen up thread:

Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Bad News Bears (original preferably)
posted by ephemerista at 1:26 PM on April 29


Mars Attacks! works well for that age group.

But then you have to deal with them running around making AKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKACK noises at full voice.
posted by bonehead at 1:29 PM on April 29 [3 favorites]


Dracula: Dead and Loving It

It has Leslie Nielsen as Dracula.
posted by donut_princess at 1:37 PM on April 29


If they will watch a movie with subtitles, then Shaolin Soccer is what you want.
posted by artychoke at 2:07 PM on April 29 [1 favorite]


> Mars Attacks! works well for that age group

We tried that last year, because I remembered it fondly. On rewatching it was overly long and weird. One kid wandered away, and the other was disturbed by it.
posted by The corpse in the library at 2:27 PM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Back to the Future.
posted by gnutron at 3:04 PM on April 29


Moonrise Kingdom is hilarious if you think 12 year old boys would go for a Wes Anderson movie.
posted by Weeping_angel at 3:07 PM on April 29


"Here Comes the Boom" or "Nacho Libre" are perfect for that age group. And they're PG.
posted by tacodave at 3:22 PM on April 29


Better Off Dead
posted by Sassyfras at 3:35 PM on April 29 [5 favorites]


Perhaps Lost In Space?
posted by IfIShouldEverComeBack at 4:27 PM on April 29


George of the Jungle with Brendan Fraser
posted by brujita at 4:43 PM on April 29


Son of Rambow about a bunch of kids remaking Stallone's First Blood. Very Sweet and funny.

Raiders of the Lost Ark: The Adaptation. A shot by shot remake made by actual 12 year olds!! Though I'm not sure you can get this on dvd.

Super 8. Not technically a comedy, but young boys as central characters.
posted by brookeb at 4:46 PM on April 29


My son is 14 now, but things he liked a couple years ago, all squeaky clean:

Around the World in 80 Days, the Jackie Chan one.

George of the Jungle

Night at the Museum

Nacho Libre

Be Kind Rewind

Galaxy Quest (and he'd never watched Star Trek)

Not funny, but seriously loved:

Tron Legacy

The Matrix Movies
posted by Requiax at 5:12 PM on April 29 [1 favorite]


Zorro, The Gay Blade
posted by Confess, Fletch at 6:29 PM on April 29


Oh, "Better Off Dead" is a VERY good movie.

Clearly of the Eighties, of course, what with the animated, hard-rock hamburger voiced by David Lee Roth, but that is totally worth it for things like "A car is not a toy, Lane Meyer" and the twin car-racing brothers and Sorry your mom blew up, Ricky."
posted by wenestvedt at 7:05 PM on April 29


The first Hellboy is actually pretty funny and a bit scary in a way that that age can handle. It's PG-13. Same with the first X-Men.
posted by topophilia at 7:28 PM on April 29


Seconding Little Shop of Horrors with Steve Martin as the "I enjoy inflicting great pain" dentist and Levi "I'm a mean green mother from outer space" Stubbs as the voice of the plant.
posted by mono blanco at 7:32 PM on April 29 [1 favorite]


My friend teaches Jr. High and has great success with The Sandlot, as aforementioned by others.
Also, Stand By Me would be good too IMHO.
posted by bookshelves at 8:19 PM on April 29


Better Off Dead! They must know it! "I want my two dollars!"

Also Brendan Fraser "Blast From the Past"

Also Apollo 13.
posted by daisystomper at 8:37 PM on April 29


Secondhand Lions is a movie that would be good, too. It's clean, but with lots of adventure. Also, Robert Duvall and Michael Caine.
posted by annsunny at 8:59 PM on April 29


I Declare War
posted by Bobby Bittman at 9:03 PM on April 29


I nth Galaxy Quest. When I watched it I didn't know anything about Star Trek and I loved it.

Also another Mefi fave - The Fifth Element. There is one kinda goofy sexy scene with ruby rood as the ship takes off but I'll be honest with you I didn't really "get it" my first time watching it so it might go over their heads as well?
posted by like_neon at 11:43 PM on April 29


Scott Pilgrim vs The World
Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief
Little Shop of Horrors
Zoom
Clue
posted by h00py at 5:23 AM on April 30


Indiana Jones - Raiders of the Lost Ark
posted by halatukit at 7:17 AM on April 30


We just had two boys - 11 and 6 years old - here this weekend and they couldn't get enough of Big Trouble in Little China. Well, that is, couldn't get enough until they found out we had FIFA Soccer for the Xbox...
posted by marylynn at 3:08 PM on April 30


I'm very late to this but I know the answer: Bio-Dome.
posted by dogwalker at 3:43 AM on May 14


I don't have a problem, and I don't think the other parents would have a problem, with the Airplane!-ish style of "naked boob flashed across the screen for two seconds", a few shits, or the occasional "fuck" if used properly.

In that case: Trading Places! I think there's brief nudity when Eddie Murphy invites everyone at the bar over for a party, and there's a gratuitous Jamie Lee Curtis changing clothes scene. Mostly, it's fairly clean humor about racism and plutocrats.

Legend of the Drunken Master should be a pretty big hit with 12-year-olds. Tons of physical comedy and amazing stunts, and the American edit (the Hong Kong version was called Drunken Master II) leaves out the unfortunate "retarded boxing" scene at the end of the movie.
posted by ignignokt at 5:28 AM on May 15


Actually, I just recalled that there's a blackface scene in Trading Place. Explaining to your son's friends why Dan Akroyd and/or Winthorpe thought it was a good idea to do that might be uncomfortable.
posted by ignignokt at 5:40 AM on May 15


Lots of good suggestions. I marked "best answer" anything that seemed like a good movie we can watch together.

For the sleepover, which is tonight, we've decided, after all that, to watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail. The circumstances preventing me from choosing that have changed.

Re: Trading Places. My wife and I re-watched it recently and I was disappointed to find it really didn't hold up all that well. I hardly laughed at all. Same with Ghostbusters. Maybe I'm just a horrible person, I dunno.

I also watched Top Secret! with The Critter a couple of weeks ago. He liked it just fine but I didn't think it was as funny as I remember. A lot of the jokes fell flat, unlike Airplane! which totally holds up after 35 years or so. He giggled at the Anal Intruder scene. I'd forgotten it was actually a giant fist on a jackhammer, which I'm laughing about as I type this.
posted by bondcliff at 7:59 AM on May 16


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