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	<title>Comments on: oy vey with the gaming</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:42:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: oy vey with the gaming</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming</link>	
		<description>If I buy a newfangled &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/&quot;&gt;Chrome netbook&lt;/a&gt; will my kid be able to use it to play Minecraft? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I understand virtually nothing regarding gaming and computer hardware.  So please forgive me if this is a really dumb question.  My kid wants to be able to play Minecraft.  I&apos;d like him not to be doing it on the desktop Mac that I use for work.  So I&apos;m looking for the cheapest possible solution.  &lt;br&gt;
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I know there is the single-player version that he can play on the iPad (which we have). However he prefers to play on a multi-player server and for that he needs a computer.  (At least that&apos;s my understanding.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:42:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BlahLaLa</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: dobi</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3360967</link>	
		<description>The desktop version of Minecraft requires a Java plugin that you won&apos;t be able to use with a Chromebook.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://support.google.com/chromeos/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=1290513&quot;&gt;Google support page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-&quot;&gt;Minecraft system requirements&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:48:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StrikeTheViol</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3360969</link>	
		<description>Short answer: while theoretically possible with a comparatively enormous amount of work and technical skills, it&apos;s not worth it. Just buy the cheapest Windows laptop you can find.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:52:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leotrotsky</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3360977</link>	
		<description>wait, you can&apos;t partition and dual-boot a Chromebook?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:02:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>leotrotsky</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: StrikeTheViol</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3360978</link>	
		<description>For the benefit of posterity, here&apos;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://chromeoszone.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-play-minecraft-on-chromebook.html&quot;&gt;complicated 3-but-more-like-8-or-9-step process&lt;/a&gt; that a future masochist might consider.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:02:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>StrikeTheViol</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: BlahLaLa</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3360979</link>	
		<description>Okay, I appreciate the answers.  Any suggestions for a specific cheapest possible Windows laptop?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:03:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BlahLaLa</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3360981</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;wait, you can&apos;t partition and dual-boot a Chromebook?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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From the look of things it&apos;s difficult and you&apos;d have to add storage anyway. Not heard of anyone doing it with Windows.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:04:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StrikeTheViol</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3360985</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Toshiba+-+Satellite+15.6%26%2334%3B+Laptop+-+4GB+Memory+-+320GB+Hard+Drive+-+Satin+Black/6978457.p?id=1218818470335&amp;skuId=6978457&quot;&gt;Something like this Toshiba should be fine.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:18:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>StrikeTheViol</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: the dief</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3360988</link>	
		<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://raspberrypi.org&quot;&gt;Raspberry Pi&lt;/a&gt; will &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2603&quot;&gt;apparently&lt;/a&gt; be able to play Minecraft in multiplayer, but I don&apos;t know if it will be compatible with normal Minecraft. Cheap though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:29:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fireoyster</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3360989</link>	
		<description>Check &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.woot.com&quot;&gt;woot.com&lt;/a&gt; for laptops.  They have pretty good deals on reasonably-powered refurbs and even some brand new ones.  Anything with an i3 or i5 processor will do what you want.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:29:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: notyou</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3360991</link>	
		<description>Or just go to newegg. Get a cheap samsung or whatever.&lt;br&gt;
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Or Dell for refurbs/returns.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:38:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thewalrus</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3361015</link>	
		<description>You can install Ubuntu 12.04 on the $199 Acer Chromebook C7...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:55:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nostrada</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3361058</link>	
		<description>Seconding Dell Outlet. The machines are as good as new - and most are not with Win8 just yet, which is a good thing</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 23:22:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: running order squabble fest</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3361118</link>	
		<description>It might be worth keeping an eye on the &quot;Bye Bye Netbook&quot; thread, where people are discussing the current start of inexpensive, relatively low-powered computers, which would probably top out at Minecraft in gaming terms. The Lenovo IdeaPad S206 is $349 or so new (ticket price, so realistically less) and I think meets the minimum spec for Minecraft (2GB RAM in that standard configuration, and the E1-1200 AMD processor is comparable with the K7 desktop processor stated). &lt;br&gt;
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Or the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0088L1YB2/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;HP Pavilion DM1&lt;/a&gt;, which is a step up in cost for the latest version. Dell Outlet is often a good place to look, also, as mentioned, although it means having to cope with Dell customer service if anything goes wrong.&lt;br&gt;
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(That&apos;s assuming you _want_ a roughly Chromebook-sized device, of course - the Toshiba 15.6&quot; laptop mentioned above has about the same spec - AMD E-450 processor, 1366x768 pixels, 4GB RAM...)&lt;br&gt;
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One worthwhile expense, for Minecraft and other applications, would be getting something with 4GB RAM rather than 2GB - especially with laptops which draw from the main RAM for graphics processing (i.e. at this price point all of them).</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 06:39:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>running order squabble fest</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ennui.bz</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3361124</link>	
		<description>hp business outlet has some good deals:&lt;br&gt;
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http://h71016.www7.hp.com/html/hpremarketing/daily.asp&lt;br&gt;
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HP 6565b W7P-64 AMD A4 3310MX 2.1GHz 320GB 4GB No-Optical 15.6HD WLAN AMD HD 6480G Rmkt NB PC &lt;br&gt;
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for about $300.&lt;br&gt;
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for cheap solutions the AMD &apos;A&apos; laptops are probably your best bet.  they are slower than comparable intel machines, but have much better graphics processors and arent as slow as the &apos;E&apos; series.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 07:09:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: running order squabble fest</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3361130</link>	
		<description>(Oops - forgot the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/123354/Bye-Bye-Netbook-Bye-Bye&quot;&gt;thread link&lt;/a&gt;.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 07:25:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>running order squabble fest</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: toomuchpete</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3361292</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;which would probably top out at Minecraft in gaming terms.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Minecraft is actually a fairly resource-intensive game. It shouldn&apos;t be, but it is. The &quot;minimum requirements&quot; stated on Mojang&apos;s site are likely to provide a barely playable (and probably not terribly enjoyable) experience.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 13:08:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: genug</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/232205/oy-vey-with-the-gaming#3361300</link>	
		<description>2nd&apos;ing toomuchpete.  I have a very capable 2 year old business laptop (core i5).  It gets crushed by minecraft -- the game is playable, but only if I keep the render distance less than I&apos;d prefer, and the machine still heats up, and the battery still drains like a sieve.&lt;br&gt;
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So, look for a gaming-oriented laptop (with better graphics processing, I&apos;d assume this is what dictates much of the minecraft performance) or at least avoid a super low-end machine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 13:30:53 -0800</pubDate>
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