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	<title>Comments on: The Birds: Australian style</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:54:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: The Birds: Australian style</title>
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		<description>How long after baby birds leave the nest until the parent birds stop being arseholes? Is there any way to convey the message, &quot;move along now, no loitering&quot; to a bunch of currawongs? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Two currawongs have been tending a nest in my garden. They have been swooping if you get too close to &quot;their&quot; tree. Two days ago the fledglings finally left the nest and have been flying around the garden and the neighbours&apos; gardens. But their parents&apos; swooping behaviour has gotten out of control. I am scared to go into my own garden, and completely unable to spend prolonged time out there gardening or relaxing. I would like to have a BBQ next weekend, but I couldn&apos;t possibly invite friends over to experience this. &lt;br&gt;
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The birds swoop immediately you leave the house, and then over and over again the whole time you are outside, whether near the nest/fledglings or not. They get close enough that their claws brush my hair, and make loud clicking sounds that scare me out of my skin if I don&apos;t see them coming.&lt;br&gt;
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How long until they will move on or become less aggressive, now that the baby birds have left the nest? They aren&apos;t going to stay forever, are they? And is there anything I can do to discourage them from coming back next year?</description>
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		<title>By: tylerkaraszewski</title>
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		<description>When the fledglings are no longer being fed by the parents, they will probably calm down. How long that take varies by species. It might be a couple of weeks.</description>
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		<title>By: Pinback</title>
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		<description>Currawongs can be arseholes right through the breeding season, but they&apos;ll typically calm down as soon as the fledglings leave the area. Yours haven&apos;t, and it&apos;s not unusual for them to take a month or more from leaving the nest to actually leaving. You&apos;ll know it&apos;s about to happen when the young start to sound like currawongs, rather than just cawing and squarking. If they only left the nest in the last few days, I wouldn&apos;t expect them to leave until at least early December.&lt;br&gt;
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You &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; possibly get them declared as &apos;a risk to public safety&apos; - it varies a bit from state to state &amp;amp; region to region, but one of the potential criteria is &quot;constantly swoops, or attacks the head or face in a front or backyard, not allowing residents to safely leave or enter the premises&quot;. But be aware that, for abundant species like the pied currawong (guessing from your area that&apos;s what it is), NPWS or your council will usually destroy them rather than attempting relocation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:21:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lollusc</title>
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		<description>A month or more??? Bloody hell. &lt;br&gt;
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I think I would feel really bad if the council destroyed them, too, so I&apos;m not ready to try that route, but it&apos;s good to know it&apos;s there as a last resort.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:25:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jilder</title>
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		<description>Start feeding them.&lt;br&gt;
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Generally it&apos;s not advisable to feed wildlife, but when it comes to aggressive birds in your yard, I tend to be a bit more relaxed about it. They&apos;ll eat just about anything, but a bit of bacon will be a good place to start, or any other meat scraps. Chicken&apos;s pretty good too, especially skin. Remember, they eat nestlings of other species, so it&apos;s no more cannibalism than you eating other mammals.&lt;br&gt;
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Start by putting scraps on a fence or whatever as close as you can comfortably manage, and move it forwards with time. My partner also does a little mimic of their happier trills, so if you can manage that too it will help. &lt;br&gt;
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It won&apos;t take long at all for them to stop seeing you as a threat and start seeing you as a food source. &lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve had great success with this tactic when faced with aggro magpies, to the point when they bring the fledgelings to meet me when they&apos;re on the wing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:35:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alice Russel-Wallace</title>
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		<description>Another vote for feeding them. Basically, make friends with them! I&apos;ve had great success with feeding both magpies and currawongs grated cheese or minced meat. Both these bird species are extremely intelligent and it probably won&apos;t take long until the are literally eating out of your hand.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:42:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alice Russel-Wallace</dc:creator>
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