Comments on: Help me not have really lame mime makeup

Question: Help me not have really lame mime makeup

artifarce — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:52:15 -0800

How do I get vivid red and black makeup over thick white makeup?

My super quick costume this year is going to be a mime, and I've messed around a bit today with the thick white Ben Nye paint I've had for a few years, the sealing powder, and various red & black eyeliners and cheap Halloween makeup "crayons". Even though the white is very thick (like paste), I can get that to go on all right, but the black and red always gets mixed up with it and turns pink and gray. I understand that the powder should seal the white so I can paint over it, right?

I hardly can do my own normal makeup and don't have an inky black eyeliner like they show in these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7uwYTQW3CQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUYA3J0Nai4&feature=related

If I buy something wetter and darker, would I get the coverage I want? I don't mind buying one or two more products, but if I do, what? And how do I avoid mixing it with the white? Should I instead buy a creamier white like the guy in the first video is using?

By: fancyoats

fancyoats — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:56:18 -0800

Can you do the red and black first, and then fill in around with the white?

By: muddgirl

muddgirl — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:58:48 -0800

I don't know if this is how professionals do it, but when I was an evil clown for a haunted house, I wouldn't put a base coat of white paint under everything - I'd fill in each color area, treating white like a completely separate color, and then touch up the edges.

By: RainyJay

RainyJay — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:01:00 -0800

You're on the right track.

First: Halloween makeup crayons are terrible. Terrible, terrible, terrible.

Second: the fact that the white is so thick might be why the red and black are getting mixed up with it. On preview, what fancyoats and muddgirl said.

Third: definitely use an inkier black eyeliner. For example: this collection from Sephora

By: 8dot3

8dot3 — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:01:30 -0800

When you are done with the white, squeeze your eyes shut and spray it with stage makeup fixative. (Thrifty hint: it's just hairspary.) Let it dry and apply your black/red colors. Spray again.

By: 8dot3

8dot3 — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:11:39 -0800

The other thing to do is use little-kid facepaint for the base (white) layer. I have done full body body color with the Snazaroo brand and it's water based but stands up to grease pretty well. I've seen the brand at art & craft stores.
I'd still hairspray it though.

By: Rock Steady

Rock Steady — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:14:25 -0800

I painted a sugar skull design on my wife for a Halloween party this past weekend. We bought some Snazaroo face paint and some small paint brushes. Once we had the white layer down, we used talcum powder all over to set it and had no blending issues at all. We used black eye shadow to set the black areas as well.

By: donajo

donajo — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:07:31 -0800

In my high-school-church-youth-group mime days*, we used professional clown white makeup, with regular ole baby powder to seal it. Then cheap drug store eyeliner to draw tears and things on our cheeks, and red lipstick (think Wet and Wild). I don't remember us having the issue that you're having with the black eyeliner on the white makeup. We sharpened those suckers to a fine point and drew all kinds of vague Christian symbols on our cheeks. We did have to layer on the lipstick to make it stay, though. I think we used the baby powder to set it too, and then did a top coat. (And then we went through industrial-sized tubs of cold cream to get it all off. And make sure you moisturize first).

*can't believe I'm bringing this up in a public forum

By: tsmo

tsmo — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:01:01 -0800

I am not a professional, but I have been known to consort with them. Your answers are as above:

1) If possible, don't layer.

2) Use proper clown/mime makeup for your red and black. Ben Nye doesn't just make white.

By: misspat

misspat — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:29:38 -0800

real clown make up is available, use baby powder to "set" white, and powder again after adding each color. my son was a clown, in more ways than one.

By: artifarce

artifarce — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:22:50 -0800

Thanks, all! I got a little lazy on adding details, but did manage to apply everything to plain skin (not over white) and to heavily powder everything as if I were a vacuum salesman. It all turned out great and lasted the night.

By: artifarce

artifarce — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:23:48 -0800

(I think all the answers would have worked, but I'm just marking as best answers the ones I actually confirmed for myself)