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	<title>Comments on: No, I don't have a TV or a landline...</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:18:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: No, I don&apos;t have a TV or a landline...</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/226005/No-I-dont-have-a-TV-or-a-landline</link>	
		<description>Is there a way to get a cheaper Time Warner Cable deal for &lt;em&gt;internet only&lt;/em&gt; in Los Angeles?  And what are the alternative providers? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; My Time Warner internet-only deal (about $35/month) expires at the end of October.  How do I get the same deal or pay only about $5 more/month?  Tips for TWC customer service?  Alternative providers in LA that have internet that works? (Note: pretty sure Verizon does not service my zip code.)&lt;br&gt;
(Long-time lurker, first-time poster :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:18:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Red Desk</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: roger ackroyd</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/226005/No-I-dont-have-a-TV-or-a-landline#3270306</link>	
		<description>Have you tried calling them up and asking? I just did that, earlier this week, and got them to knock off $8/month. Of course, there&apos;s a catch: I have to try their VoIP service for a month, but the discount is guaranteed, even if I cancel the VoIP.</description>
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		<title>By: rhizome</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/226005/No-I-dont-have-a-TV-or-a-landline#3270332</link>	
		<description>Consider DSL, which is about that price (landline not included).</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:52:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MeghanC</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/226005/No-I-dont-have-a-TV-or-a-landline#3270335</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m in Ohio, but when my promotional rate with Time-Warner expired earlier this year, I paid the higher rate for a month, then phoned and said I was trying to cut back, and was there a way we could lower my bill somehow?  I ended up paying about $30/mo for 10 mbps, which was $5 more than my promo rate for a much faster speed. It&apos;s worth a try.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:55:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: insectosaurus</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/226005/No-I-dont-have-a-TV-or-a-landline#3270425</link>	
		<description>We also only have internet, no TV or landline. When our promo deal expired with one company (AT&amp;amp;T maybe? I&apos;m not sure.) we tried to negotiate a cheaper rate by telling them we would switch away otherwise. It didn&apos;t work, so we actually switched. When we called to cancel, they finally offered us a lower rate, but it was too late.&lt;br&gt;
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We were switching to Time Warner, not trying to keep it - but I think the idea is the same. Tell them that you will cancel if they don&apos;t give you a better rate.  If you can actually convince them that you will cancel, they will give you a lower rate.  If not, just switch to someone else.&lt;br&gt;
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(I&apos;m in Los Angeles too, for what it&apos;s worth).</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:14:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Room 641-A</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/226005/No-I-dont-have-a-TV-or-a-landline#3270576</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m in Santa Monica and use L.A.-based &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dslextreme.com/&quot;&gt;DSLExtreme&lt;/a&gt; and I couldn&apos;t be happier with them.&lt;br&gt;
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It&apos;s been a few years now and I don&apos;t think there has ever been an outage that I was aware of, compared with TW which would go down for days at a time some times, and when my modem died last year I had a new one the very next day. CS is always helpful (I&apos;ve had issues with my connection but they were all on my end.)&lt;br&gt;
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As far as speed goes, I pay $32/month for the 3000/768Kbps connection. I&apos;m running a speed check right now; I don&apos;t really understand the technical part of it but it &quot;feels&quot; fast enough for me. (Speed test results: DL - 2018 Kb/s, UL - 612 Kb/s, Latency - 20 ms)&lt;br&gt;
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Let me know if you want any other info.&lt;br&gt;
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When I last moved three years ago I vowed to never pay TW again. Starting this season, The Lakers are part of a deal that removed all the locally OTA broadcast KCAL games to a new TW sports package. Around 4pm today the TW installer left my house. Fuckers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 23:14:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Red Desk</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/226005/No-I-dont-have-a-TV-or-a-landline#3271179</link>	
		<description>Ok, thanks for the answers so far.  I did some shopping around, and DSL Extreme has a good deal except that you need an active home phone line.  I have no idea how to do this or how much it would cost.  Help?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:16:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Red Desk</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Room 641-A</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/226005/No-I-dont-have-a-TV-or-a-landline#3271237</link>	
		<description>Did they say you needed an actual land line with the phone company, because I have never had a phone in my current place. I remember at first there was a little bit of confusion over this when I set up my account but I guess Verizon just made the phone jack &quot;live&quot;. As far as I know there isn&apos;t a phone number associated it, and I definitely never set up a new account so it doesn&apos;t cost anything.&lt;br&gt;
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Without a phone number CS would get confused too, until someone referred to it as &quot;random&quot; and now when I tell them that they just ask for my account number. Maybe that&apos;s the secret word you need to use.&lt;br&gt;
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Perhaps a more knowledgeable MeFite can unjumble what I&apos;ve said.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 15:24:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Red Desk</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/226005/No-I-dont-have-a-TV-or-a-landline#3271322</link>	
		<description>Great, thanks, Room 641-A.  It did seem on the website like you needed an actual phone number - there&apos;s a box to enter your phone number, and then it says in small print next to a checkbox &quot;I don&apos;t have a land line right now but will obtain one after I place this order.&quot;  I will try calling their customer service to figure it out.  &lt;br&gt;
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I tried talking to TWC, but they have been inflexible so far.  I checked for other providers, and AT&amp;amp;T has DSL with no landline required but charges a required $100 for their modem/router thing.  Earthlink also has no landline DSL but they only have a deal in my price range for the first 6 months of a 1 year contract.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:57:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Room 641-A</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/226005/No-I-dont-have-a-TV-or-a-landline#3271477</link>	
		<description>Oh, great! I was in a little over my head but I&apos;m glad it made sense. &lt;br&gt;
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I didn&apos;t think to mention it but my cost has remained fairly flat, so I don&apos;t have to go thorough the whole dance every 6 or 12 months. As a matter of fact, I was month-to-month (also good sometimes) but I recently accepted their offer of $5/month off to sign on for a year.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:44:04 -0800</pubDate>
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