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	<title>Comments on: Biostatistics training outside of school</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 08:40:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Biostatistics training outside of school</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/223901/Biostatistics-training-outside-of-school</link>	
		<description>What  after bio-statistics software experience is most attractive to future employers? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I have a Ph.D. in immunology with 15 years of research experience in academia and industry.  My current position is as a Senior Scientist in microbiology for a private company.  The shift to micro from immune wasn&apos;t difficult, as it is more my experience in study design, data analysis and biotechnology that are useful in this position.  The job is a contract (temporary) position.  I have just passed my one year mark, so I have one more year guaranteed with this company.  I am hopeful that they will offer me a permanent position but it&apos;s highly dependent on the contracts awarded, if any, this year(we do government work mainly).   The city I live in has very little in the way of positions available to someone with my background other than at one university in town.  I have no desire to go back to the university mainly because the positions pay significantly less than what I am earning now and would likely earn as a project manager at another company.  The challenge I face is the my background is rather specialized, and unfortunately I never took the time to learn much about biostatistics.  I managed to learn enough statistics to get by and have published several field-based studies, but I never formally learned the more cutting edge statistical software and analysis that would make me more appealing as an analyst.  My question is, what statistical software should I learn that would be most attractive to a future prospective employer (insurance industry, for example) who has an interest in hiring someone with a research background and able to perform intermediate statistics.  I have experience with StatView, which is now obsolete.   I would like to train myself through online courses and not attend a college course.   I am guessing SAS, but I really don&apos;t have a clue.</description>
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		<title>By: floweredfish</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/223901/Biostatistics-training-outside-of-school#3237727</link>	
		<description>SAS - absolutely hands down.  It&apos;s an industry standard. &lt;br&gt;
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Many biotech parent companies actually use homegrown systems, so it would be ridiculously helpful to have a strong knowledge of different platforms - Oracle, Medidata, etc.</description>
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		<title>By: BrandonW</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/223901/Biostatistics-training-outside-of-school#3237729</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://stata.com/&quot;&gt;Stata.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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In addition to a huge wealth of resources that you&apos;ll find on University web pages with a bit of Googling, Stata offers pretty good crash courses that last ~2-3 days, and are quite effective (or so I hear from colleagues; I haven&apos;t been to one, since I got Stata training in methods courses). &lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.princeton.edu/~otorres/&quot;&gt; Here&apos;s a pretty good resource for learning about Stata&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br&gt;
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You should also use the above link to learn about R, which is also very attractive to employers that expect employees to do lots of number crunching.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 08:48:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dfriedman</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/223901/Biostatistics-training-outside-of-school#3237731</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m not sure where you&apos;re looking to work--you talk about academia and then biology but subsequently mention insurance.&lt;br&gt;
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If you&apos;re looking to work in the insurance industry, I can tell you that some of the actuaries I know use a combination of R and Excel.&lt;br&gt;
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The best way to get a handle on what the insurance industry uses is to determine what aspect of the insurance industry you&apos;re looking to work for (it&apos;s a vast industry) and set up informational meetings with people who work in that area and ask them what statistics packages they use.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 08:49:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pikeandshield</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/223901/Biostatistics-training-outside-of-school#3237745</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve used SPSS, Stata and R for epidemiology/biostatistics and by far and away the easiest &amp;amp; fastest to use for me was Stata. I was able to get a decent grip on it after a week or so of self-teaching. As much as I hate it, Excel would probably be the most transferable out of research, though, such as in the financial industry, judging from my friends in the consulting/banking sectors.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:04:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: waving</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/223901/Biostatistics-training-outside-of-school#3237828</link>	
		<description>This was super helpful, thanks so much.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:28:07 -0800</pubDate>
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