Yar, this be a conundrum.
May 20, 2011 8:23 PM Subscribe
I have two questions about the end of the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie: one practical, one philosophical. Needless to say, major spoilers inside.
The first question: What does Jack Sparrow say to Angelica right before the ritual takes effect and Blackbeard gets decimated by the fountain?
Second: My boyfriend says that ultimately it was Sparrow who killed Blackbeard and thus the prophecy was not fulfilled. I think that Blackbeard would have died due to the poison-tipped sword whether Sparrow had interfered or not, so really Barbossa killed Blackbeard, as was the prophecy. Who is right?
The first question: What does Jack Sparrow say to Angelica right before the ritual takes effect and Blackbeard gets decimated by the fountain?
Second: My boyfriend says that ultimately it was Sparrow who killed Blackbeard and thus the prophecy was not fulfilled. I think that Blackbeard would have died due to the poison-tipped sword whether Sparrow had interfered or not, so really Barbossa killed Blackbeard, as was the prophecy. Who is right?
#2 I think you are right.
It was the poison from Barbossa which killed Blackbeard. He drove the sword through his heart.
Sparrow had the chance to save him but instead speeded up the death for Blackbeard.
posted by manny_calavera at 11:21 PM on May 20, 2011
It was the poison from Barbossa which killed Blackbeard. He drove the sword through his heart.
Sparrow had the chance to save him but instead speeded up the death for Blackbeard.
posted by manny_calavera at 11:21 PM on May 20, 2011
1) he says he thinks he may have mistaken the cup that takes life from the one that takes death. Either before or after Blackbeard's demise, he tells Angelica that in the end Blackbeard did (well, Sparrow made him do) what any parent should have done, namely die for their child.
2) Blackbeard was mortally wounded by the poisoned sword. All Sparrow could have done was to set a sequence of events in motion where Angelica saves his life (by giving up her own). Barbarossa gets at least half the credit, if not all.
posted by zippy at 12:50 AM on May 21, 2011
2) Blackbeard was mortally wounded by the poisoned sword. All Sparrow could have done was to set a sequence of events in motion where Angelica saves his life (by giving up her own). Barbarossa gets at least half the credit, if not all.
posted by zippy at 12:50 AM on May 21, 2011
Prophecies are tricky things. One could even argue that Blackbeard was responsible for his own death, since he was the one who grabbed the chalice. That said, though, Barbossa ran him through with a poisoned sword, so I'd say the "you will be killed by a one-legged man" prophecy was fulfilled and your boyfriend is wrong. For the writers to say otherwise in a future movie would be the very definition of an Ass Pull.
As for what Sparrow said immediately before the magic was invoked, I think you're referring to when he admitted that he might have gotten the chalices confused. But then again, this is Jack Sparrow, so who knows whether he was telling the truth or not?
posted by Faint of Butt at 5:43 AM on May 21, 2011
As for what Sparrow said immediately before the magic was invoked, I think you're referring to when he admitted that he might have gotten the chalices confused. But then again, this is Jack Sparrow, so who knows whether he was telling the truth or not?
posted by Faint of Butt at 5:43 AM on May 21, 2011
Response by poster: Thanks everyone for your answers. For question #1, there was one line that I didn't hear. I think it was his response to her calling him a bastard as he was walking away, but my memory is fading. I'll probably just have to see it again.
posted by easy_being_green at 8:16 AM on May 21, 2011
posted by easy_being_green at 8:16 AM on May 21, 2011
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