Comments on: Red and Yellow Logos

Question: Red and Yellow Logos

jonah — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:55:10 -0800

Why are all of the logos for major fast food chains red and yellow? Is this psychological, readable, an offshoot of McDonalds? The ones I have seen are McDonalds, Carl's, Wedy's, Burger King, In and Out, Sonic, KooKooRoo - I'm trying to find one that is not yellow/red.

By: knave

knave — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:58:14 -0800

I've heard that red makes people hungry, but I'm having trouble finding any documentation to support that assertion...

By: gaby

gaby — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:58:34 -0800

Subway?

By: mischief

mischief — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:02:57 -0800

The lights show up better at night?

By: smackfu

smackfu — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:04:04 -0800

KFC is white/red. Taco Bell is blue/white/yellow. Pizza Hut is red.

By: gaby

gaby — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:04:44 -0800

Interesting little related game: Fast Food Logos.

Damn, I'm quite hungry now... :)

By: jonah

jonah — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:05:39 -0800

Subway looks to be yellow and white and green, I'm not so much looking for non yellow/red logos, but a reason why that scheme is so dominant.

By: weapons-grade pandemonium

weapons-grade pandemonium — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:11:52 -0800

The Luscher Color Test is a good place to start. Color has direct physiological effects on the brain. Red increases pulse, blood pressure, and respiration. Blue does the opposite.

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:15:13 -0800

Ironically, yellow is often used by organisms to signal danger.

By: grouse

grouse — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:21:04 -0800

Red increases pulse, blood pressure, and respiration. Blue does the opposite.

You obviously haven't read any of the political threads in the blue recently.

By: gaby

gaby — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:21:27 -0800

Curiously: red and yellow seem to just be strong, attention getting colours. I don't know how much stock I put in that website though...

By: Gucky

Gucky — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:27:07 -0800

Browns and "golden" colors tend to be the most appetizing. Although other colors can cue appeal, comfort foods in particular (warm, satisfying) should be in close proximity to brown (reds, oranges, yellows). However, brown is not seen as exciting or fun.

Red tends to cue appetizing and excitement. Vivid, warm colors like yellow and red supposedly cue speed and will cause people to eat faster, or at least give them the impression of speed.

The color green=healthy, natural, organic but surprisingly enough, not tasty. In fact, green tends to make people think it's good for you, but not delicious.

(Unfortunately, I have no research citation since I've gleaned this from focus groups, the design team at work and my snack food client.)

By: peacay

peacay — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:33:29 -0800

No doubt there have been a trillion focus groups and all the results have been ~~stolen~~ shared by the advertising industry. I suppose it all depends on what questions they are asked - I would think they've gone for the most eye catching - especially for logos/signs. I doubt they are trying to budge psychological feelings, as with say the color paint for the walls inside - they just want recognition and attention holding.
Good observation ortho. Heh.

By: benightedly_heedful

benightedly_heedful — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:54:59 -0800

I heard somewhere that it's so patrons who decide to eat inside of the restaurant do so at a faster pace. Bright red and yellow aren't exactly pleasant and relaxing colors, so those who choose to sit down to eat won't stay long, this means increased turnover which means increased profits. Books like Fast Food Nation may have some more insight on the subject.

By: dflemingdotorg

dflemingdotorg — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:56:38 -0800

Ketchup and mustard.

By: fletchmuy

fletchmuy — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:00:35 -0800

I've heard that yellow is the color that can be seen from the longest distance (think taxi cabs).

By: sad_otter

sad_otter — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:02:26 -0800

White Castle. But I'm not sure how "major" they are.

By: thefinned1

thefinned1 — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:09:15 -0800

Is Long John Silvers still around? They were blue and white, right?

By: spicynuts

spicynuts — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:27:06 -0800

My feeling is that red and yellow can be seen from a long way off and instantaneously stand out from the environment. This is why Stop signs are red and yield signs are yellow. They are an immediate attention grabber for the eye because their purity of color generally does not exist in standard natural environments, which consist mostly of greens, browns and blues. Think about what colors animals use to indicate they are in heat or are courting - reds, yellows, oranges - bright and immediately contrasting with most of the environment around them.

If you are cruising down the road (and due to over-saturation of stores and strip malls this may no longer hold true - but back in the birth time of modern hiways it CERTAINLY held true) and you see something hugely red and yellow, you are not going to miss it. Think of every caution or alert signage in the human lexicon...they nearly all have red or yellow in them. Your eye can't avoid it.

By: Four Flavors

Four Flavors — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:36:23 -0800

A&W is Brown, and Arby's is a sort of Orange.

By: shepd

shepd — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:44:56 -0800

From what I recall, *interior* designs of restaurants use "food" colours because it makes patrons enjoy their food more. Red plates, yellow tables, etc, etc. Blue, for example, would be a colour you ban from a restaurant because it makes people think "unedible/unsanitary".

By: Gucky

Gucky — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:50:28 -0800

No doubt there have been a trillion focus groups and all the results have been stolen shared by the advertising industry. I suppose it all depends on what questions they are asked - I would think they've gone for the most eye catching - especially for logos/signs. I doubt they are trying to budge psychological feelings, as with say the color paint for the walls inside - they just want recognition and attention holding.

It's not that a small research study gets passed around the industry, it's that we get involved in research constantly and we get very, very consistent results on certain color families. (I would caution against blanket statements on "all orange" "all yellow" -- certain yellows are illegible. Certain yellows make people think of pee.) It's hard not to make generalizations when you dig through as much research as is generated by the industry. And very little of it is as simple as "That's a bright color. Pick that."

Every logo, every color scheme, every ad campaign, every alteration to a logo for all these chains goes through extensive research at every stage. They're not just asking "Which one do you look at first?" I wish we were. Focus groups wouldn't be 2 hours long each.

The psychology of it plays a huge part. That's actually all my job consists of -- creating the emotions brands are supposed to make you feel.

They (we) are using every trick in the book -- observational, emotionally digging, focus groups, one-on-one interviews -- to make sure the elements elicit as much tie back to the brand positioning (Does this make you feel like something you are "Lovin'"? Which one is "trustworthy"? Which one is "hearty"? Which one is "wholesome"?) and the desire to use (eat) the product.

Eye catching/attention getting is a small part of it. The problem with "attention getting" is something new and different is always attention getting. So why does everything look the same? If everyone was going for the exact same reaction, they'd all use the same colors, shapes and words. There's nuance -- both in the execution and the way the consumers receive it. (Thus, I'm employed.)

By: jonah

jonah — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:53:44 -0800

Interesting, thanks Gucky.

By: TheDonF

TheDonF — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:00:35 -0800

Colour psychology is a really interesting area, something I've dipped my toe into but not really got any further. You've got some good answers there, but Googling under 'colour psychology' should get you some more.

By: shannymara

shannymara — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:49:27 -0800

Bright red and yellow aren't exactly pleasant and relaxing colors, so those who choose to sit down to eat won't stay long, this means increased turnover which means increased profits.

This has never made much sense to me, and I'm starting to think it's an urban legend. After all, who has ever seen a standing-room-only fast food restaurant? And if so, does it really dissuade more people from coming in and ordering? You can get it to go!

By: herc

herc — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:33:41 -0800

Regarding a "standing room only" fast food restaurant, let me assure you, most In-and-Outs in my area are standing-room only from 11:30 to 2:00 pm, and again around 7 to 9 pm.

I second the "ketchup & mustard" theory, as that's the explanation I've always assumed. It's sort of a code, in that fast food joints pushing foods one typically decorates with ketchup and/or mustard (burgers, hot dogs, fries) get the red and yellow colors (Koo Koo Roo being an exception, but they have additional colors -- blue, I think -- in their logo), whereas fast food joints with products one usually enjoys sans ketchup or mustard avoid the red & yellow color scheme.

It could also be that the market leader (McDonalds) adopted those colors, and competitors have appropriated them to ride on the coattails.

By: Eamon

Eamon — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:58:34 -0800

AskMetafilter: good for you, but not delicious

By: peacay

peacay — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:20:08 -0800

Gucky you manipulator!
So, what should I have for lunch and what colour shirt says 'autumn' in a meaningful yet playful way?