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	<title>Comments on: What's the deal with Vespas?</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:06:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: What&apos;s the deal with Vespas?</title>
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		<description>I&apos;m thinking of buying a Scooter, but I live in a northern climate. How much use will I get out of this thing? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Recently, a Vespa dealership opened up in my city. The nerd in me tingles whenever I even think about it. I live in Nova Scotia, so there&apos;s usually snow or slush or something on the ground for at least six months of the year. How much use am I going to get out of one if I buy it? Should I go with the lower end models, or splurge for the better, super-highway ready ones? Basically, if I don&apos;t live in a gigantic city am I going to be able to justify using it as a primary mode of transportation? Especially in a colder climate?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>hughbot</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: hughbot</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17549/Whats-the-deal-with-Vespas#293550</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/17546&quot;&gt;Huh.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Well, motorcycles and scooters are different beasts, right?</description>
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		<title>By: Popular Ethics</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17549/Whats-the-deal-with-Vespas#293555</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been wondering this myself, so I&apos;m anxious to hear the answer.  I was *this* close to buying a &lt;a href=&quot;http://powersports.honda.com/scooters/model.asp?ModelName=Metropolitan&amp;ModelYear=2005&amp;ModelId=CHF505&quot;&gt;Honda Metropolitan&lt;/a&gt; when I was in Victoria, BC.  Now that I&apos;m in Southern Ontario, I&apos;m not sure it would be worth the cost, given that I would be snowed in for four-five months of the year.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:14:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HuronBob</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17549/Whats-the-deal-with-Vespas#293566</link>	
		<description>OK...this is from experience that is about 30 years in the past, but I imagine it hasn&apos;t changed much..&lt;br&gt;
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Bottom line..it depends on how tough you are!  :)&lt;br&gt;
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I used to ride a scooter/motorcycle to school all winter in Michigan..  cold as heck, would wear a scarf over my face to avoid the dreaded sinus freeze (hurts like hell!).&lt;br&gt;
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You will NOT ride a two wheeler when there is ice or snow on the road, unless you are very stupid...  you will fall down, you will slide, you will get hurt.&lt;br&gt;
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It also depends on how you like to look, how much trouble you want to go to...  if you have a suit/tie job, you&apos;ll not be riding in the rain unless you can store/carry a change of clothes...if you have a t-shirt/jeans job, might not matter as much...&lt;br&gt;
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Friends???  if you have more than one you&apos;ll be leaving them behind...&lt;br&gt;
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Bugs...they will be caught in your teeth, in your hair...and smack you on the forehead...(hurts!).&lt;br&gt;
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Look at it like this...if you NEED personal transportation on an everyday basis (no bus/public transportation available), and you won&apos;t be able to borrow a car when the weather/roads are bad, the bike is not the answer.. unless, of course, you can afford to own a car as well.&lt;br&gt;
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If, however, you can make do somehow when you can&apos;t ride it, are able to stand a bit of discomfort once in a while, don&apos;t have a huge/long/highway commute and are smart enough not to get killed on the darn thing...they are fun!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:28:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>HuronBob</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: SpecialK</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17549/Whats-the-deal-with-Vespas#293691</link>	
		<description>Buy a Ural if you live that far north. You can ride them in the winter just fine. ;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:15:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mojohand</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17549/Whats-the-deal-with-Vespas#293733</link>	
		<description>Nova Scotia.  I dunno.  I&apos;d say any two-wheeled vehicle is will be severely compromised for half the year.  Road grip/traction is *real* important for bikes if sliding under a truck is something you&apos;d like to avoid.&lt;br&gt;
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I rode my motorcycle every month this winter, but I live in Maryland, considerably to your south, and I *never* rode when the roads had been wet within the last three or four days and the temps were anywhere near freezing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:25:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Goofyy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17549/Whats-the-deal-with-Vespas#294061</link>	
		<description>Beware, scooters are not as safe as motorcycles. They slip too easy and spill you on the ground. That being said, they are also comfortable and fun! &lt;br&gt;
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Things to look for: Can your helmet fit in the storage compartment? On my Honda Beat, it can&apos;t! Pain in the ass! Honda provided a handy hook, from which the helmet can&apos;t be removed when the seat is locked down...except with a simple pocket knife. The gas tank access is under the seat, which could be seen as good or bad. &lt;br&gt;
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Don&apos;t buy any unknown brand. There are plenty of those going around here in South Africa. Buy only known brands from official dealers (unless you buy used).&lt;br&gt;
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Cold weather? I avoid taking mine out even if the pavement is just wet. But I&apos;m perhaps overly fond of my skin, though I tend to ride in shorts and sandals (normal clothes here much of the time). &lt;br&gt;
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The only real advantage of scooter over a motorcycle that I can see (licensing rules may add advantages in some places) is the scooter&apos;s lack of shift and clutch. No muss, no fuss. The electric start is minor. My battery often goes flat between rides as I don&apos;t ride it that often, I don&apos;t need to go anywhere (that is, by scooter. Have the car on weekends and evenings). Its very easy to start the old fashioned way.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:19:04 -0800</pubDate>
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