Comments on: When Finder goes insane

Question: When Finder goes insane

inksyndicate — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:40:49 -0800

I'm minding my own business when my Panther 10.3 Finder stops behaving on my Mac. It now takes many times longer to load and won't connect to the Internet, not even with a Comcast wizard. I have this vague understanding that I'm supposed to wipe out Finder prefs. Is this right? Is it crazy to think the Finder bug is relevant to the sudden lack of connectivity?

Any other Finder fixing tips besides wiping out the prefs file? And is there anything that would cause a Mac Mini to stop connecting to the Net, despite recognizing its Network Adapter? Your help much appreciated.

By: sbutler

sbutler — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:43:39 -0800

You might want to try booting off the install CD, but don't do an install. When you get the first window move your mouse to the top of the screen and a menu bar will appear. Under the application menu (IIRC) you will be able to launch Disk Utility. Run a "Repair Permissions" on your system volume. This has fixed my Finder problems in the past.

By: amberglow

amberglow — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:11:30 -0800

yup. and if disk utility doesn't work, back up everything and do an "archive and install" or "upgrade" from that disc. (you can fake "upgrade" on a machine already running it)

By: amberglow

amberglow — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:14:32 -0800

oh, also it may be which 10.3 you're on--some are more stable than others i've found (i'm on 10.3.7 and it's been perfect--10.3.5 and .6 weren't for me. And i heard .8 is problematic sometimes)

By: Remy

Remy — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:36:00 -0800

It should be noted that as best I can tell, Comcast is apparently having massive DNS issues that may be causing this. I would hold off on the reinstall.

By: wzcx

wzcx — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:48:59 -0800

Funny you should mention, I too am in SF with a Comcast connection, and am having a hard time getting online. I just managed to connect to MeFi after 5-10 minutes of problems. There seems to be much congestion at the DNS server level, since once I can resolve a name, all pages from that domain load as fast as ever. In fact, at this point, I haven't been able to post this comment for half an hour.

By: stet

stet — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:56:22 -0800

In Seattle, my Comcast/Earthlink connection hasn't been able to resolve more than a handful of domains for about four hours. I'm in Internet withdrawal! Also, the tech told me it's nationwide.

By: majick

majick — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:00:08 -0800

There is no rational relationship between the Finder and loss of internet connectivity. The Finder participates very, very little in such things (except as a client). It's extremely unlikely there is any causal relationship between them.

You don't describe the problem you're having with the Finder -- taking "longer to load" makes very little sense because the Finder is only loaded once, when you log in to the machine -- so I can't make a suggestion as to how to fix it. As to your network woes, is it that you have no connection, or that you're unable to reach web sites? Those two are completely different things, and a DNS problem might be the cause of the latter. There has been a recent upswing in the frequency and scope of DNS poisoning attacks, and that may very well be at the root of this vague problem.

By: boo_radley

boo_radley — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:04:09 -0800

I gave comcast denver a jingle -- their DNS servers have collapsed. They suggested maybe 5 hours until things were fixed.

By: D.C.

D.C. — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:16:33 -0800

I've seen OS X stall for a bit on boot if the network connection is down when it tries to connect to a time server.

By: amberglow

amberglow — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:19:07 -0800

are you getting the rainbow spinning thing? only when you try to connect, or all the time?

By: majick

majick — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:23:15 -0800

Oh, and for those of you experiencing DNS woes, you do know you aren't required to use your ISP's servers, right? There are plenty of other servers out there that will help you on your way to name resolution:

ORSC servers, for example. Or the OpenNIC servers. Just reconfigure your computer to use those instead of your ISP's in times of need.

By: debgpi

debgpi — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:29:07 -0800

I had the same problem until I changed DNS servers. Once I changed, everything worked fine, even the finder. It took a frustrating hour to resolve the problem, though. I thought I had broken my mac!

By: filmgeek

filmgeek — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:29:21 -0800

Ok,

So, if it's not comcast's servers (which may or may not have resolved by now)....

Add a new user (system prefs, accounts) and log out (apple menu). Log in as the new user and see if the finter + internet are doing k.

If they are, you shoudl be able to nuke finder prefs in your user.

By the way here's a good article on Mac voodoo, that I do once a month.

voodoo

By: rhyax

rhyax — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:53:07 -0800

osx will hang for a long time in booting if it is set to ethernet connectivity and there is no connection, also there are a lot of other things that will slow you down if your net connection goes down that you might not be aware of, like idisk syncing, time syncing, etc.