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	<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:34:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Good books for beginning php</title>
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		<description>i&apos;ve got to learn php for my work. can anyone recommend a good, not too expensive or obscure, book i can order to help me make a start? I&apos;m in Belgium and there&apos;s only one bookshop that sells english language books so I can&apos;t go and browse to see what I would like.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:26:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quarsan</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: safetyfork</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17156/Good-books-for-beginning-php#288065</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/067232525X/&quot;&gt;PHP and MySQL Web Development, Second Edition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
by  Luke Welling, Laura Thomson&lt;br&gt;
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It&apos;s not cheap new, but it&apos;s reasonable used.</description>
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		<title>By: TNLNYC</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17156/Good-books-for-beginning-php#288066</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t know how much access to the Internet you have but, generally, I found that the sites like the PHP.net site and just googling for info have been providing almost as much info as what you could get in a book.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:36:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quarsan</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17156/Good-books-for-beginning-php#288094</link>	
		<description>safetyfork, thanks for that recommendation, it looks great.&lt;br&gt;
TNLNYC, there is a lot of good stuff online, but i find having a book to read and thunb through much better than staring at a screen, but i have bookmarked the php online manual</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:08:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quarsan</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: the_W</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17156/Good-books-for-beginning-php#288113</link>	
		<description>I second safetyfork&apos;s recommendation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:43:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: krisjohn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17156/Good-books-for-beginning-php#288117</link>	
		<description>I used two references to learn php.  An Orielly Pocket Reference, and an 1800+ page PDF.  The combination was brilliant.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:48:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: socratic</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17156/Good-books-for-beginning-php#288123</link>	
		<description>You asked for a book, and I&apos;ll third it, though for my own personal learning style, it was almost useless (no reflection on the book... i just do better digging into code examples and searching newsgroups and bulletin boards for people with similar problems).  Everybody has their own way, and if you learn from books, that&apos;s a good one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:52:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: togdon</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17156/Good-books-for-beginning-php#288166</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0672325616&quot;&gt;Advanced PHP Programming&lt;/a&gt; by George Schlossnagle would be a good followup to the previously mentioned title. I learned PHP before there were any books, reasonable or otherwise, and picked that one up recently on the recommendation of someone who&apos;d learned PHP the same way. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
We both got a lot out of it and tend to work on completely different types of projects. If you&apos;re at all comfortable programming you might even be able to get by with a few online tutorials and then diving straight into that...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:59:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: krisjohn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17156/Good-books-for-beginning-php#288180</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596004028/qid=1112745680/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-3736169-6966533?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is the pocket reference.  The PDF file I think was from php.net and doesn&apos;t appear to be available anymore.  I&apos;ve put it up on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.krisjohn.net/php_manual_en.7z&quot;&gt;my site in a .7z archive&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
There&apos;s no point in a big huge book if you can&apos;t find anything in it.  Grossly oversized references have to be electronic.  Paper references need to be as small and simple as possible.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Note that both of these references are raw function references.  X does Y.  &lt;b&gt;Not&lt;/b&gt; &quot;So you&apos;re wanting to create Z...&quot; type of books.  Your learning style may vary.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:17:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>krisjohn</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: joshgray</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17156/Good-books-for-beginning-php#288210</link>	
		<description>Advanced PHP Programming and PHP and MySQL Web Development, Second Edition (already mentioned) are awesome books.   &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
If you&apos;re new stick with O&apos;Rielly&apos;s &quot;Learning..&quot; books like Learning PHP 5&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
PHP.net is a great reference as well.   I hit that all the time when i am programming</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:18:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quarsan</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17156/Good-books-for-beginning-php#288307</link>	
		<description>thanks everyone. i like to play with code as i go, but i like to take time away from the screen and read, then put into practice what i&apos;ve read. a pocket reference sounds essential and php.net is an incredible resource.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:27:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SpecialK</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17156/Good-books-for-beginning-php#288351</link>	
		<description>I think the &quot;PHP 4 Bible&quot; was the best book I found when I was learning, and the one I learned from. I would stay away from O&apos;Reilly books unless you&apos;re the kind of person who can sit down and read a whole book cover to cover... I, personally, can not.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:25:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yoga</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/17156/Good-books-for-beginning-php#288443</link>	
		<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tizag.com/&quot;&gt;Tizag Tutorial&lt;/a&gt; site has been very helpful to me when used along with reference  handbooks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 05:59:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>yoga</dc:creator>
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