Nuance? I don't want no stinking nuance.
August 30, 2010 7:07 PM Subscribe
I want movies where someone is pushed too far and finally fights back.
Sort of like Deliverance, Rambo, Death Wish, Breakdown, Gran Torino, Karate Kid even, and a bunch more I've seen but can't recall at the moment.
Mainly, I want to see cheeks being turned left and right and left again, before a huge plate of comeuppance is finally served. I want the Nasty Badguy/girl to have their face ground into the pavement (but only just as much as is necessary, of course, because too much would be wrong).
The fewer shades of gray the better. Sports movies that fit this pattern would work too.
Extra special points for something I can stream on Netflix.
Sort of like Deliverance, Rambo, Death Wish, Breakdown, Gran Torino, Karate Kid even, and a bunch more I've seen but can't recall at the moment.
Mainly, I want to see cheeks being turned left and right and left again, before a huge plate of comeuppance is finally served. I want the Nasty Badguy/girl to have their face ground into the pavement (but only just as much as is necessary, of course, because too much would be wrong).
The fewer shades of gray the better. Sports movies that fit this pattern would work too.
Extra special points for something I can stream on Netflix.
Not a fan of the movie, but Mel Gibson's the Patriot.
posted by anitanita at 7:19 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by anitanita at 7:19 PM on August 30, 2010
Thelma and Louise
posted by dfriedman at 7:19 PM on August 30, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by dfriedman at 7:19 PM on August 30, 2010 [2 favorites]
Cool Hand Luke
posted by dfriedman at 7:20 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by dfriedman at 7:20 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
Last House on the Left?
posted by kpht at 7:22 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by kpht at 7:22 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
Whip It!
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 7:23 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 7:23 PM on August 30, 2010
I was also initially going to suggest Falling Down, but on further reading of the more inside I don't think it qualifies. The character who gets the comeuppance is not the hero, but he's not exactly a villain either. I'm thinking too many shades of grey.
posted by Emanuel at 7:26 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by Emanuel at 7:26 PM on August 30, 2010
Legally Blonde
posted by thesmophoron at 7:27 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by thesmophoron at 7:27 PM on August 30, 2010
Ooh, and Kill Bill, Oldboy, Firecreek with Jimmy Stewart/Henry Fonda, Shooter, Man on Fire, Day of the Woman/I Spit on Your Grave, and Office Space.
posted by anitanita at 7:27 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by anitanita at 7:27 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
Oh COME ON people! Return of the Jedi!
"If you will not turn to the Dark Side, then perhaps she will..."
posted by XMLicious at 7:40 PM on August 30, 2010
"If you will not turn to the Dark Side, then perhaps she will..."
posted by XMLicious at 7:40 PM on August 30, 2010
Machete.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 7:41 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 7:41 PM on August 30, 2010
Oh, wait, there will probably be few cheeks being turned in Machete.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 7:42 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 7:42 PM on August 30, 2010
Sleepers.
Maybe Falling Down? I can't remember how it ends. On preview, what Emanuel said. Maybe too grey-ish.
Panic Room? Na, maybe too grey-ish as well.
Oh, oh, oh... Two Hands! My favourite brutal-but-deserved revenge scene.
posted by malibustacey9999 at 7:43 PM on August 30, 2010
Maybe Falling Down? I can't remember how it ends. On preview, what Emanuel said. Maybe too grey-ish.
Panic Room? Na, maybe too grey-ish as well.
Oh, oh, oh... Two Hands! My favourite brutal-but-deserved revenge scene.
posted by malibustacey9999 at 7:43 PM on August 30, 2010
Swimming with the sharks
posted by dfriedman at 7:50 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by dfriedman at 7:50 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
This is exactly the plot of the 2002 masterpiece, Enough, starring Jennifer Lopez.
I'd tell you how bad it is, but then I'd have to admit that I've seen it.
posted by phunniemee at 7:51 PM on August 30, 2010
I'd tell you how bad it is, but then I'd have to admit that I've seen it.
posted by phunniemee at 7:51 PM on August 30, 2010
Response by poster: Panic Room totally works, from what I recall of it.
Falling Down is awesome enough that I'm glad to see it mentioned, and it's at least deliberately playing with the emotions present in the kind of movie I'm asking about.
posted by jsturgill at 7:53 PM on August 30, 2010
Falling Down is awesome enough that I'm glad to see it mentioned, and it's at least deliberately playing with the emotions present in the kind of movie I'm asking about.
posted by jsturgill at 7:53 PM on August 30, 2010
PUNCH DRUNK LOVE! The end is so OMG SATISFYING when he fights back.
posted by hellomina at 7:55 PM on August 30, 2010 [4 favorites]
posted by hellomina at 7:55 PM on August 30, 2010 [4 favorites]
Punch Drunk Love
The confrontation between Adam Sandler and Phillip Seymour Hoffman is an epic release of repressed rage and emotion. Sandler's character has some other 'had it!' moments in the film as well.
posted by carsonb at 7:58 PM on August 30, 2010
The confrontation between Adam Sandler and Phillip Seymour Hoffman is an epic release of repressed rage and emotion. Sandler's character has some other 'had it!' moments in the film as well.
posted by carsonb at 7:58 PM on August 30, 2010
I haven't seen this, but Dirty Weekend. Mmmm, trashy.
I have read the book, and it's exactly what you want. I understand that the film is not well regarded.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 8:00 PM on August 30, 2010
I have read the book, and it's exactly what you want. I understand that the film is not well regarded.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 8:00 PM on August 30, 2010
Back to the Future
posted by John Cohen at 8:00 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by John Cohen at 8:00 PM on August 30, 2010
While I don't think it's a traditional example of what you're looking for, I'm going to say Heathers.
posted by peep at 8:05 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by peep at 8:05 PM on August 30, 2010
Office Space? "...I could set the building on fire..."
Carrie?
I'm wondering about the "turn the cheek" aspect. Like, there's a lot of "revenge" movies, but usually the revenge part takes up a much larger part of the movie than the part where they quietly take it.
posted by RobotHero at 8:06 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
Carrie?
I'm wondering about the "turn the cheek" aspect. Like, there's a lot of "revenge" movies, but usually the revenge part takes up a much larger part of the movie than the part where they quietly take it.
posted by RobotHero at 8:06 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
The remake of The Hills Have Eyes directed by Alex Aja has a great last third. The first 2/3s are pretty gross, but in the last third the victimized wimp, having had his family murdered, turns into an avenging psychopath. It's fantastic.
posted by GilloD at 8:07 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by GilloD at 8:07 PM on August 30, 2010
ROLLING THUNDER (if you can find it)
THE FARMER (when it finally gets released)
Ms. 45
THE KILLER SNAKES
posted by Venadium at 8:09 PM on August 30, 2010
THE FARMER (when it finally gets released)
Ms. 45
THE KILLER SNAKES
posted by Venadium at 8:09 PM on August 30, 2010
Related Tropes on TVTropes.com: Beware the Nice Ones, Let's Get Dangerous, and Berserk Button.
posted by lunchbox at 8:13 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by lunchbox at 8:13 PM on August 30, 2010
9 to 5. The "fighting back" is done to comic effect, but it fits your criteria.
posted by amyms at 8:19 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by amyms at 8:19 PM on August 30, 2010
Seconding Network.
posted by easy, lucky, free at 8:56 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by easy, lucky, free at 8:56 PM on August 30, 2010
Payback?
Although the lead-up is not quite as long as what i think you are talking about in your question.
posted by ArgentCorvid at 9:02 PM on August 30, 2010
Although the lead-up is not quite as long as what i think you are talking about in your question.
posted by ArgentCorvid at 9:02 PM on August 30, 2010
The Professional, Sleeping with the Enemy, Inglourious Basterds, and Kick Ass.
posted by annaramma at 9:05 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by annaramma at 9:05 PM on August 30, 2010
I'm guessing you're not looking for kids' movies, but Matilda and Home Alone.
posted by lwb at 9:41 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by lwb at 9:41 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
(Home Alone less so, but I always thought that the reason he took such a physical approach to dealing with the crooks was his built-up frustration at how his family treated him)
posted by lwb at 9:43 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by lwb at 9:43 PM on August 30, 2010
Dolan's Cadillac, although it might also be more in the revenge category.
posted by thankyouforyourconsideration at 9:55 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by thankyouforyourconsideration at 9:55 PM on August 30, 2010
The Craft - Robin Tunney's character (in the end, when she does real "magick").
posted by purlgurly at 10:01 PM on August 30, 2010
posted by purlgurly at 10:01 PM on August 30, 2010
Response by poster: Matilda is an excellent answer.
posted by jsturgill at 11:04 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by jsturgill at 11:04 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
28 Days Later. "I promised them women."
posted by athenasbanquet at 11:10 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by athenasbanquet at 11:10 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
No spoilers, but I don't know if I'd include Oldboy.
Minority Report
Pootie Tang
Bad Day at Black Rock
posted by rhizome at 11:21 PM on August 30, 2010
Minority Report
Pootie Tang
Bad Day at Black Rock
posted by rhizome at 11:21 PM on August 30, 2010
"Fire Starter". It takes a long time before the girl snaps, but when she does it's awesome.
(Also "Carrie".)
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 12:05 AM on August 31, 2010
(Also "Carrie".)
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 12:05 AM on August 31, 2010
Gladiator has got a pretty long lead up to the actual revenge.
Seconding 9 to 5 and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo which both follow the arc you're describing pretty closely.
On the other hand I don't think Oldboy, Kill Bill or Kick-Ass really qualify as the kind of revenge movies the OP is looking for, for various structural reasons (mostly, not much on-camera buildup, it's all backstory)
If you're willing to extend it to revenge-by-proxy, Let The Right One In and Pan's Labyrinth both spring to mind.
posted by furiousthought at 12:42 AM on August 31, 2010
Seconding 9 to 5 and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo which both follow the arc you're describing pretty closely.
On the other hand I don't think Oldboy, Kill Bill or Kick-Ass really qualify as the kind of revenge movies the OP is looking for, for various structural reasons (mostly, not much on-camera buildup, it's all backstory)
If you're willing to extend it to revenge-by-proxy, Let The Right One In and Pan's Labyrinth both spring to mind.
posted by furiousthought at 12:42 AM on August 31, 2010
Enough.
It's a movie where Jennifer Lopez has had enough.
posted by jeff1010 at 3:05 AM on August 31, 2010 [1 favorite]
It's a movie where Jennifer Lopez has had enough.
posted by jeff1010 at 3:05 AM on August 31, 2010 [1 favorite]
New Jack City
posted by IvoShandor at 3:48 AM on August 31, 2010
posted by IvoShandor at 3:48 AM on August 31, 2010
It's not out yet, but Hesher, with Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Natalie Portman is a perfect example. The poor kid in the movie takes it and takes it and takes it. He does snap, but the actual resolution of his being bullied is quite awesome. I saw an early screening at ComicCon and I'm absolutely going to see it when it's released.
posted by teleri025 at 5:44 AM on August 31, 2010
posted by teleri025 at 5:44 AM on August 31, 2010
Ransom, Man on fire, Carrie, 3 o'clock High, Braveheart, Secret of NIMH, Fight Club, Memento, Cruel Intentions...a few shades of grey there, some repeats, but the same underlying theme.
posted by samsara at 6:11 AM on August 31, 2010
posted by samsara at 6:11 AM on August 31, 2010
The 8 Most Kick-Ass Movie Vigilantes
- Death Wish (Bronson)
- Gran Torino
- Batman Begins
- The Boondock Saints
- Taxi Driver
- Harry Brown
- The Brave One
- Walking Tall
posted by gen at 6:49 AM on August 31, 2010
- Death Wish (Bronson)
- Gran Torino
- Batman Begins
- The Boondock Saints
- Taxi Driver
- Harry Brown
- The Brave One
- Walking Tall
posted by gen at 6:49 AM on August 31, 2010
Not the best (or appropriate) movie if you're sensitive. But nothing speaks revenge/pushed too far than I Spit on Your Grave. (again, horrible move with NSFW themes but it is what your'e looking for).
posted by stormpooper at 6:58 AM on August 31, 2010
posted by stormpooper at 6:58 AM on August 31, 2010
Shawshank Redemption.
And I second Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
posted by beccaj at 8:02 AM on August 31, 2010
And I second Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
posted by beccaj at 8:02 AM on August 31, 2010
Pale Rider. Other westerns along those lines... Unforgiven, Shane (kinda), etc.
Also, every other kung-fu movie. Fist Of Legend. Ip Man. Ong Bak. Sha Po Lang. Police Story. Drunken Master (kinda), etc.
posted by Pickman's Next Top Model at 9:11 AM on August 31, 2010
Also, every other kung-fu movie. Fist Of Legend. Ip Man. Ong Bak. Sha Po Lang. Police Story. Drunken Master (kinda), etc.
posted by Pickman's Next Top Model at 9:11 AM on August 31, 2010
Also, have a listen to the song "Coward of the County" by Kenny Rogers.
posted by Pickman's Next Top Model at 9:23 AM on August 31, 2010
posted by Pickman's Next Top Model at 9:23 AM on August 31, 2010
A bit of a dark horse, but available on Netflix: Never Let Go, a 1960 noirish British flick about a guy whose car is stolen by a chop-shop gang. Losing his car threatens his job, his marriage, and ultimately his sanity. The villian is played wonderfully by Peter Sellers, chewing all kinds of scenery, and the story builds slowly and tensely to an anguished climax o' rage.
posted by ROTFL at 9:36 AM on August 31, 2010
posted by ROTFL at 9:36 AM on August 31, 2010
Not a fan of the movie, but Mel Gibson's the Patriot.
Isn't this pretty much descriptive of any Mel Gibson movie?
Mad Max? Check.
Mad Max sequels? Check.
Braveheart? Check.
posted by The 10th Regiment of Foot at 10:35 AM on August 31, 2010
Isn't this pretty much descriptive of any Mel Gibson movie?
Mad Max? Check.
Mad Max sequels? Check.
Braveheart? Check.
posted by The 10th Regiment of Foot at 10:35 AM on August 31, 2010
Nobody's saying Kill Bill??
Did I misunderstand the question?
posted by Paris Elk at 11:23 AM on August 31, 2010 [1 favorite]
Did I misunderstand the question?
posted by Paris Elk at 11:23 AM on August 31, 2010 [1 favorite]
Nacho Libre.
posted by Barry B. Palindromer at 12:09 PM on August 31, 2010
posted by Barry B. Palindromer at 12:09 PM on August 31, 2010
Law Abiding Citizen? Not exactly cinematic excellence but kind of fits the bill on two levels. The guy's family is killed and he gets fed up with the justice system so he starts taking it out on the DA, judge, etc. then you get to see them get fed up with him.
Bonus points: I'm pretty sure I saw it via Netflix streaming.
posted by magnetsphere at 7:58 PM on August 31, 2010
Bonus points: I'm pretty sure I saw it via Netflix streaming.
posted by magnetsphere at 7:58 PM on August 31, 2010
Response by poster: Too many good answers to mark them all. Thanks.
posted by jsturgill at 1:20 PM on October 31, 2010
posted by jsturgill at 1:20 PM on October 31, 2010
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posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 7:09 PM on August 30, 2010 [1 favorite]