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	<title>Comments on: SF to Vegas on a motorcycle in winter?</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:03:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: SF to Vegas on a motorcycle in winter?</title>
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		<description>A dear friend has presented me with an interesting gig in Las Vegas at the end of the month.  I live in San Francisco.  I would like to accept, but wonder about the feasibility of making this part of a motorcycle road trip. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; This job would be a wonderful learning opportunity.  It wouldn&apos;t pay the costs of me getting out there, but the chance to train in a very specialized discipline, as well as the chance to see a dear friend who I never get to see makes me want to jump at this opportunity.  I&apos;ve been itching to take a motorcycle road trip for awhile now, but planned to wait until it was a little less wintery.&lt;br&gt;
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Is this a really dumb idea?  Any thoughts on a potential route?  I&apos;m thinking I&apos;d like to break it into a 2 day ride.  Back roads are more awesome, but obviously less well maintained.  Riding in the rain is OK with me, I&apos;ve got good rain gear.  Riding in the snow is not ok.&lt;br&gt;
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Despite growing up in CA, my familiarity with Central and Southern California roads is pretty non-existent.  I&apos;m thinking 99 rather than 5, but I worry about 58 to 15 going east.  I&apos;d love to take a day on the way there or back and wander around Death Valley or Mojave National Preserve, too.&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;m sure I&apos;m leaving something out.  This whole idea is really overwhelming and exciting.  But is it completely foolhardy?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:53:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A189Nut</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2053624</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s a wonderful idea. Do it. Worry about the details later.</description>
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		<title>By: snsranch</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2053674</link>	
		<description>Yea, definitely do it!  You haven&apos;t mentioned anything about time constraints, and that&apos;s my biggest hang up with riding...I never want to be in a big hurry riding long distance on my bike.  In your shoes, I would plan enough time to get down there so you can take care of biz without feeling hurried and then take the long way home.  &lt;br&gt;
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Good luck and have a blast!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:58:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2053675</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s about 600 miles from point A to B, which is totally possible on a motorcycle, and even easier if you want to break it up over two days (which is a good idea).&lt;br&gt;
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I don&apos;t know squat about the route.  I would just decide if you&apos;re going to camp or if you want to find a motel, figure out where you plan to spend the night, figure out a backup plan if you decide to stop sooner or later than that, and go.&lt;br&gt;
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How long are you staying in Las Vegas?  Are you bringing your clothes/gear with you, or will you mail it ahead?  What kind of bike do you have?&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;d just make sure your bike is tuned up before you hit the road.  Check the fluids, change the oil if necessary, make sure your tires aren&apos;t too worn, etc, and then go.  Once you&apos;re out of the city the isolation of riding a bike down the road becomes totally meditative, as you probably know, and time will fly.  Pack a snack or two, some water, and stop when you feel like it.&lt;br&gt;
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If your bike is reliable enough to make a 600 mile trip over two days, then you have nothing to worry about.  Do it.&lt;br&gt;
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Do it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:59:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mollymayhem</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2053687</link>	
		<description>My bike is a KLR 650, 2001.  I&apos;d only be in Vegas probably 3 nights, but I&apos;d need to coordinate with my friend.  Clothes and gear would be coming with me on the bike.  The show dates are 1/31 and 2/1.  I&apos;ve written off being home for my SO&apos;s birthday on 2/3, but I&apos;d like to be home in time to make a cake for his birthday party on the 7th.  I was figuring on leaving on the 27th or 28th.&lt;br&gt;
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Eeeeee!  Excited!  Now I just have to finish and send off my resume and a cover letter.  I&apos;ve got the gig, but I need to actually officially apply.&lt;br&gt;
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My dad&apos;s got backpacking camping gear that I could use, but I need to decide if I want to do that or just hotel it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:15:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hapax_legomenon</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2053690</link>	
		<description>It seems to me your primary concern is (and rightly so) the weather. (You allude to this as well so I think we&apos;re on the same wavelength.) So hopefully some norcal motorcycler mefites will show up here soon to comment on that.&lt;br&gt;
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I, however, can&apos;t resist throwing my (possibly irrelevant) two cents in:&lt;br&gt;
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&quot;I would rather regret the things that I have done than the things that I have not.&quot;&lt;br&gt;
-- Lucille Ball&lt;br&gt;
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I try to live by that and the Golden Rule (more or less successfully depending on day, date, time and mood). Hope that helps.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:17:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2053692</link>	
		<description>Alright, that thing&apos;s an indestructible mule.  Load it up and take off.  Have fun, and report back or drop me a MeFi Mail when you get back.&lt;br&gt;
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Is there anything specific that you&apos;re worried about other than snow and the specific route to take?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:19:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mollymayhem</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2053698</link>	
		<description>Nothing specific.  I&apos;ve got a good pal who&apos;s a hell of a mechanic, so I&apos;m going to get him to give her a once over before I leave.  I&apos;m gonna head over to ADVRider and get some route advice.  There are a million moto trip packing lists online, so I can cobble something together out of that.  Another friend has crossed the US more than a handful of times on a KLR, so I&apos;ll hit her up for advice before I go.&lt;br&gt;
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Mostly the idea just seemed semi-insane, probably because the lead time is so short.  But while it may be semi-insane, the internet seems to think it&apos;s awesome.  That&apos;s good enough for me!  And I&apos;ll give myself some extra time to get there, so that I can avoid riding in shitty weather.&lt;br&gt;
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I did a 3 day roadtrip on my Ninja with nothing but what I could fit in a tank bag, and had a spectacular time.  I sense this will be much the same, if quite a bit colder.&lt;br&gt;
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Thanks all!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:26:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: asterix</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2053699</link>	
		<description>Given the time of year and the limited amount of time you&apos;ll have to get there, 99 or 5 to Bakersfield, then 58 over to 15 is pretty much your only option. There are other routes, but all of them will be either impassable or make you miserable. (Highway 4 all the way from Hercules/Pinole to 395 should be on your list of rides to do someday, but not for this trip.)&lt;br&gt;
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What&apos;s the longest slog you&apos;ve ever done on major highways on your bike? You may want to look into music options; an iPod running through a pair of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er6i.aspx&quot;&gt;these&lt;/a&gt; will be a lifesaver.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:28:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: asterix</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2053700</link>	
		<description>Er, 4 -&amp;gt; 395, then 395 all the way south to near Barstow, that is.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:29:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2053704</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I did a 3 day roadtrip on my Ninja with nothing but what I could fit in a tank bag, and had a spectacular time. I sense this will be much the same, if quite a bit colder.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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This should be a breeze on your KLR then.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;...an iPod running through a pair of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er6i.aspx&quot;&gt;these&lt;/a&gt; will be a lifesaver.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Oh hell yes.  I have a pair of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001TDKML4/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Shure SE-115&lt;/a&gt; that I paid too much for at the Apple store, so maybe you can search around or snag some online (I think I paid about $100 for mine, but the Amazon link there is ~$60).  They are awesome.  I can listen to spoken word or audio books at a moderate volume through them at highway speeds.  They really do completely isolate the road/wind noise from the music.  They work great as ear plugs (although they&apos;re not quite as comfortable as foam ear plugs).  I rode with them ten hours a week between August and December and they&apos;re still going strong.  They&apos;re a boon to any trip over 20 minutes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:36:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: needs more cowbell</title>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...an iPod running through a pair of these will be a lifesaver.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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It is illegal to wear earphones while driving a car in most states because earphones prevent you from hearing emergency vehicles&apos; sirens.  Is the rule different for riding a motorcycle?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:33:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: asterix</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2053973</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is the rule different for riding a motorcycle?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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I can&apos;t say what the laws are in CA and NV, but I&apos;ve never heard of a motorcyclist getting cited for wearing headphones. It&apos;s certainly legal to wear noise-reducing earplugs (which is really a safety necessity - at speed you&apos;ll start to incur hearing damage pretty quickly).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:49:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: needs more cowbell</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2054088</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t think people get cited for wearing headphones very often, even in cars.&lt;br&gt;
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In case anyone is interested: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27400.htm&quot;&gt;the CA law&lt;/a&gt; distinguishes between headphones and hearing protectors &quot;attenuate injurious noise levels,&quot; though it specifies that the hearing protectors must be designed not to block sounds from emergency vehicles.   No idea whether that&apos;s realistic/whether motorcycle noise is a different enough frequency from emergency sirens.  &lt;br&gt;
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In both cases this only applies to having something in both ears.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:25:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: swngnmonk</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2054330</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t really suggest anything for a route, but I will say the following:&lt;br&gt;
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1) GO.&lt;br&gt;
2) We discovered that Google Maps &apos;Terrain View&apos; is an awesome help when route planning for a motorcycle.  Avoid interstates, and look for roads that go all sorts of twisty through hilly regions?  Pretty much guaranteed awesomeness.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:14:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mollymayhem</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/143461/SF-to-Vegas-on-a-motorcycle-in-winter#2055200</link>	
		<description>You all rock!  Thanks everyone!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:50:53 -0800</pubDate>
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