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	<title>Comments on: Time-share Scam?</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:16:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Time-share Scam?</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam</link>	
		<description>Scam? I&apos;ve been contacted and told I was selected to win a prize as a thank you for filling out a survey a few months ago. I have to go to a lunch and draw for which prize I&apos;ll receive out of 5. Presumably this is a scam, and I imagine it&apos;s a Time Share sales thing. So my question is this, if I go, and withstand the stupid timeshare marketing thing, will I actually get a prize? Or will I be scammed out of that, too? The company in question is &apos;The Vacation Store&apos; and this is local to Toronto, since there are a lot of Vacation Stores out there on the net.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:11:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jacquilynne</dc:creator>
		
			<category>scam</category>
		
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		<title>By: headspace</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#245101</link>	
		<description>You&apos;ll get a prize... after you sit through a three or four hour high-pressure sales pitch. The prize may or may not be worth it- a lot of time shares give away tickets to Disney or Epcot center, but you&apos;re just as likely to get a cheap alarm clock. It doesn&apos;t have to be a good prize to keep them legal, it just has to be a prize. Since you don&apos;t know what you&apos;ll get, I&apos;d say skip it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:16:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: misteraitch</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#245109</link>	
		<description>My Dad thought he&apos;d won a boat in a deal like this: but he had to go &amp;amp; withstand the hard-sell, only to find that it was an extremely cheap &amp;amp; nasty boat which he would win, and that, in fact, he&apos;d only &apos;win&apos; the boat if he were to cough up a &apos;delivery fee&apos; suspiciously similar to the boat&apos;s retail value...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:31:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jpburns</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#245110</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TANSTAAFL&quot;&gt;TANSTAAFL&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:32:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smart Dalek</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#245112</link>	
		<description>Yes, you will get a prize. &lt;br&gt;
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No, it will not have a cash value exceeding $14.95. &lt;br&gt;
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More than likely, it&apos;ll be some &quot;grab bag&quot; item, such as a cheap plastic camera, a portable FM radio, a flashlight keychain, or a booklet of coupons. Given the vacation angle, it&apos;s a pitch to get you onto an off-season &quot;work as you ride&quot; cruise, where part of your expenses are covered by serving as an assistant cruise director or cleanup staff. Amway/Herbalife are notorious for using travel rewards as part of their speil, so there&apos;s the chance you&apos;ll be invited to a recruitment session.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:33:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Smart Dalek</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: banjo_and_the_pork</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#245119</link>	
		<description>When I was a kid, I remember my mom dragging me along to a time share pitch, which was long and boring, but we did get free tickets to Disney out of it. The tickets were the only &quot;prizes&quot; offered; if this vacation place isn&apos;t promising something worth telling you about, it probably isn&apos;t worth your time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:54:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gi_wrighty</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#245124</link>	
		<description>My parents have been to a few of these things and walked away every time with an off-season holiday abroad .  Of course it there were a number of option extras that they went with but it still worked out cheap.  They must fit a profile or something as the invites come through every now and again.  &lt;br&gt;
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Check the fine print to see what prizes are on offer and double check what the cheapest item is; you can bet that will be what all the attendees will receive, not the Ferrari or cruise.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:03:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: purephase</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#245150</link>	
		<description>I got a call about this about 2-3 months ago (I&apos;m in Toronto as well).  Ever-skeptical, I kept on asking the telemarketer for the &quot;catch&quot;, that it was too good to be true etc. but he insisted that it was legit.&lt;br&gt;
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This is a good thread.  I meant to ask this back when he called, but when he inquired about my age, he told me that I was in the incorrect age bracket (I was 25 at the time, they need 28-35) and that it did not apply to me.&lt;br&gt;
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Oh well.  He insisted that there were no catches, and that the prizes were as described (trips etc.).  I could sit through 3-4 hours of bullshit for free plane tickets.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:10:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>purephase</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jacquilynne</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#245485</link>	
		<description>Oh, they told me prizes would be &apos;guaranteed to win one of these 5 prizes&apos; and the prizes were a cruise, a golfing vacation, a trip to Florida, $1000 or a 61 inch TV.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:43:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jacquilynne</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sanitycheck</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#245603</link>	
		<description>Perhaps the catch is that the cruise/vacation is free once you get there, but transportation *to* the location is not?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:01:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jacquilynne</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#245608</link>	
		<description>Hrmm, maybe for the Florida and Golf things. He was quite specific about the airline ticket being issued for the Cruise trip. &lt;br&gt;
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Frankly, since there&apos;s a less than 0 chance I&apos;d be suckered by the sales pitch, (I have no money, I rarely take real vacations, but rather travel to visit family, I know timeshares suck) I&apos;m thinking I might go just for the hell of it. My current plans for Saturday afternoon are approximately: laundry. And I&apos;ve always enjoyed berating overbearing salespeople for their stupidity.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:10:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jacquilynne</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: purephase</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#245849</link>	
		<description>Let us know what happens.  This way, once I hit their target age bracket, I&apos;ll know what I&apos;m getting myself into. ;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:39:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>purephase</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jacquilynne</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#246592</link>	
		<description>Well, I drove to the place in the middle of an epic blizzard. Upon arrival they asked me to fill out a form in the lobby. As I sat down to do it, they asked me to take my coat, but I was freezing because I&apos;d just come out of the epic blizzard. So I declined. They told me I couldn&apos;t keep my coat, but couldn&apos;t tell me why I couldn&apos;t keep my coat. So I left, returning to the epic blizzard.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:18:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jacquilynne</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: purephase</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/14217/Timeshare-Scam#247227</link>	
		<description>Weird.  Maybe they were a little worried about recording equipment etc.  That, in itself, would probably have me running for the door as well.  Thanks for the update.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;small&gt;(Puts tinfoil hat back on.)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:04:29 -0800</pubDate>
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