Am I buying a business from a guy who's trying to hoodwink me?
September 21, 2009 12:44 PM   RSS feed for this thread Subscribe

I'm about to purchase a business, but the profit on the tax return is a lot lower than the owner's internal financials. How can I make them rectify this discrepancy to my satisfaction? After all, I'm not into the whole "going bankrupt" thing.

I'm about to purchase an existing retail business from a seller who's in his 70s and recently fell into poor health, to the point that doctors are testing him to determine if he's got ALS. This was given to me as the reason he's selling, and the internally-produced financial data they've provided me seems to bear that out. The store makes a good profit, and except for a bit of a dent in FY 2008 due to the recession, gets more profitable every year. (FY 2009 numbers so far already have them on track to return to the trend of increasing profit every year, so 2008 looks to have been a fluke.)

Here's where the problem arises. In 2008, their internally produced financials showed a net profit of about $93k, while their corporate tax return (they're a C corporation, which seems a bit much for one owner) shows about $11k. I am NOT a financial-head, so I initially missed this. One of the banks I was applying for financing from brought this to my attention. An $11k net profit at the end of the year is so low that if it were correct, I wouldn't be able to service the debt on the 10% seller financing, let ALONE the bank financing. (Of course, that's points in favor of "the seller is acting in good faith" -- if the $11k number were real, he would HAVE to know he couldn't afford to finance to me, since I wouldn't be able to pay him.)

I passed this along to the seller's broker, and he initially attributed it to differences between cash- and accrual-basis accounting, and that virtually all businesses try to make their income appear less than what it is, so as to ease their tax burden. He then took about a week to comb through financial data and prepare for me a relatively detailed Excel spreadsheet following, nearly line by line, the differences (a) the accrual-basis documents as received by the seller, (b) cash-basis as received by the seller, and (c) the actual tax return. He even put in a couple of questions/answers in the document:

"Is there significant difference in profitability between the accrual vs. cash way of constructing this company's financials? No."

and

"Is there significant difference in profitability between accrual and cash vs. tax return way of constructing this company's financials? Yes, and it is [due to] how certain expenses are accounted for between accrual and cash vs. tax return."

And there's line after line of numbers, with three columns for each. Some highlights are that the tax return shows about $27k more expenses and about $29k less profit.

On their tax return, from what I can tell, they aren't reporting $12k in undeposited funds. They have $24k in A/R on their internals that they reclassify as bad debt on their tax return.

My eyes begin to glaze over all the detail, though I sorta feel like the sheer volume of all these numbers, complete with annotations, suggests that they really wanted to document the source of the discrepancy and demonstrate that they're above board. Throughout this whole process, they've always been forthcoming with documents, and have even taken the initiative to provide data on their own (e.g, as a month ends, sending along the numbers for that month so that I'm kept up to date).

And while I've not been in the retail business specifically before, I've been working for nearly a decade, as an independent consultant, in a field intimately tied to the main product line that this store sells, one which tends to center on one particular multi-national corporation which sells a lot of very cool products and services. As a real nerd when it comes to this particular company, I know that their market share has been climbing year after year, and that their own financials show them to be essentially recession-proof. So on that basis, at least, I have no reason to doubt the seller-provided numbers. I don't want to say you'd have to be a complete idiot to have a store like this and NOT make pretty respectable money, but . . . you kinda would have to be a complete idiot.

I got an OK for financing from one bank so far (would like to hear from others, but at least I have something solid); we already agreed on a selling price in the earlier, non-binding Letter of Intent phase, and according to the lawyer, the next steps now that I have a financing offer are a lien/title search, some due diligence on his part, etc. The bank did the financing only because I'm backing it with both mine and my father's stock portfolios (he's a guarantor but otherwise won't have any involvement in the business). This was the only way they could get past their reservations about the tax return, saying that while they understand most businesses play with the numbers a little, their policy is that they have to go by what's on the tax return. Thus, this transfers the risk to me.

I guess what I want to know is . . . what other documents can I request from the seller to back up his internal financials? (For instance, if I were a private citizen under-reporting my income to the IRS, and got a lot of money from an under-the-table contracting gig, but somebody wanted proof of this since it's not on my 1040, I could produced copies of the checks the contractor gave me throughout the year, or maybe have them sign a letter stating that they paid me X amount, etc.)

The seller's broker has said all along that he'd be more than happy to have a sit-down or conference call with me, the seller, and any bank(s) that would like clarification on these numbers (none have taken him up on this so far). I'm thinking I should take him up on this, but to go over it with me, specifically -- line by line, if necessary.

My gut tells me the seller's honest, not just because I've met him, but also from what I know of this market and the success of this product line. But gut isn't enough.

Other details: Located in Richmond, VA; only two competitors (it's kind of a high barrier-to-entry situation to sell this company's products), both of which are out in the 'burbs (while this place is next to downtown); store has been under this ownership since 2003, but originally founded around 1989; it's received recognition from the corporation whose products it primarily sells for being in the highest level of sales and customer satisfaction with service. Selling price is $145k (couldn't negotiate it down much from the $150k asking price), which seems kind of low given a 2008 seller-provided net profit of $93k (but insanely high if the $11k number is to be believed) . . . but I know that when using net profit to determine a valuation, the "multiplier" can be anywhere from 1-4 depending on the industry.

On the plus side, like I said, the seller and his broker have been nothing but cooperative all along, so I think that we can ask for damn near any document we desire.

Okiedoke. Thanks for reading all this. Many thanks in advance.
posted by CommonSense to work & money (9 comments total)
I don't know if it pertains to this small business but US GAAP standard ls require that two books be kept: one for taxes and one for financial statements.

Again the business in the question here may not be required to abide by these standards becaus of its small size and number of shareholders.

I would retain the services of a CPA.
posted by dfriedman at 12:58 PM on September 21


Get yourself a good accountant and get them to look through it all, they can also advise on other support you may wish to see and should sit in on the call/meeting.
posted by koahiatamadl at 1:02 PM on September 21


I guess what I want to know is . . . what other documents can I request from the seller to back up his internal financials?

Ask for audited GAAP financials. If the company hasn't been audited, ask the seller to pay for an audit (of at least the last year). Try to get access to the auditor's working papers for due diligence by your accountant (auditors hate this, but they'll allow it if their client insists).

If you don't want to delay closing, you could do a two-stage closing where the second closing is a true-up based on the results of the audit.

Make sure you have a robust reps & warranties section in your purchase agreement. You should have the seller represent that the GAAP financial results represent the true economics of the business and that the adjustments made for tax purposes are legitimate. Your lawyer will have the right legalese for this sort of stuff.
posted by mullacc at 1:22 PM on September 21


To successfully run the business, you're going to have to have a good understanding of this. And you're going to need a good accountant, so start now, get an accountant who can help make sense of this.
posted by theora55 at 1:39 PM on September 21


Small businesses aren't going to *get* audited GAAP financials. A full audit is a level that's just... not done. You could talk about it potentially, but it's probably not going to happen.

Get a CPA. Now. If you don't know these kinds of things backwards and forwards, you need someone who does. CPAs do this kind of thing all the time.

Chances are extremely good that there are some perfectly ordinary explanations for the differences. The net income you give to the IRS is not a good measure of your real income for the year, and the IRS knows this and it's intentional, especially with depreciation--one large equipment purchase can totally wipe out a company's net income for the year for tax purposes, but when you add back depreciation the thing looks quite rosy.

You need a CPA yesterday. Chances are these numbers are being produced by someone who expects them to be read by an accountant, who would know immediately what they've done between the financials and the tax return that's produced this difference, and whether it's reasonable or not.

If your CPA doesn't know what they're doing, then you get worried. What looks like a lot of useless data to you is the sort of thing an experience CPA can look at and go, "Oh, of course. Well, here, you see, we have the actual written-off bad debts on the tax return, whereas on the financial they use an allowance for each year. And we have all this section 179 depreciation. And here's the half of business meals you can't deduct on your taxes..." And so on.

Or the CPA might look at it and say, "You know, I have no idea what they're trying to explain with these. We need more information here, here, and here," and be able to give you specific questions you need to ask.

Don't try and do this without the relevant expertise. That there are differences is totally normal. What the differences are and what they mean for this business in particular... that's very potentially relevant and should be analyzed by someone who knows what they're looking for.
posted by larkspur at 1:43 PM on September 21 [1 favorite]


Just wanted to add: on a tax return the 1st thing to look at for differences between the profit or loss on your books and the profit or loss on your return is schedule M-1. It details the items of income and expenses that were not taxable if included on the books or not deductible if taken as an expense. Basic example - you expense meals and entertainment. The tax law says that only 50% can be taken as a deduction. Therefore that creates a difference between your book profit and your tax profit. Your tax profit would be higher since half of your m & e expense was not allowable. Sometimes expenses not deductible on last year's return can become deductible in the current year due to the accrual rules related to accrued expenses. And sometimes certain income is not taxable depending on its source. The profit or loss on sch m-1 line 1 should agree to the company's profit or loss on its books. This is the big check figure. And get a cpa!
posted by irie1972 at 2:54 PM on September 21


A friend of mine bought a business some years ago. He paid only part of the asking price and the remaining amount depended on future earnings.
posted by yoyo_nyc at 5:28 PM on September 21


This is what a CPA is for.
posted by Jacqueline at 6:47 PM on September 21


OK, thanks to everyone. CPA it is, then!
posted by CommonSense at 8:19 AM on September 22


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