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	<title>Comments on: Christmas Shopping for 18-year-old</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:56:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Christmas Shopping for 18-year-old</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold</link>	
		<description>You&apos;re an 18-year old guy six months out of rehab with a creative mind and a severely disfunctional family. You&apos;ve got a GED and a job in sales. You&apos;re going to be spending Christmas with your aunt, because you&apos;re mom is too messed up to deal with you. What two or three things do you want for Christmas that can be bought for roughly $20 each?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:52:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>croutonsupafreak</dc:creator>
		
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			<category>gifts</category>
		
			<category>presents</category>
		
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230556</link>	
		<description>some music or movies or videogames? some sort of hobby/puzzle/drug-replacement thing?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:56:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stefnet</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230557</link>	
		<description>Maybe a Moleskine-type sketchbook/journal and a good pen? I&apos;m not sure if &quot;creative mind&quot; extends to writing or drawing, but maybe he could use an outlet of that manner?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:59:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>stefnet</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mr_crash_davis</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230558</link>	
		<description>18 and in sales?&lt;br&gt;
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A nice tie. A leather planner. A gift certificate to Borders/B&amp;amp;N. Movie passes. Gift certificate to Outback steakhouse.  Gas money if he has a car (gift cert for local gas station?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:59:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mr_crash_davis</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bingo</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230570</link>	
		<description>Books. Of his own choosing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:20:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bingo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sled</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230576</link>	
		<description>Three things I always carry on me are: a moleskine journal (mentioned above), a small pocket knife, and a thumbdrive USB stick. I would have loved to get any of these as a gift.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:29:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sidhedevil</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230578</link>	
		<description>A gift certificate to a record store.  A gift certificate to a bookstore.  A journal and pen, as suggested above.  A card that tells you, in a direct but not soppy way, how much your aunt loves you and how much confidence she has in your abilities.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:33:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sidhedevil</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: SpecialK</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230602</link>	
		<description>A tie. A new shirt in a cool color or fabric. A new belt. Something to hold business cards in.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:20:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alt F4</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230615</link>	
		<description>If he&apos;s computer savvy, I&apos;d second the USB thumb drive / flash stick / dongle wongle. 128 MB at least.&lt;br&gt;
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Perhaps a subscription to a magazine of some sort?&lt;br&gt;
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A book that you really liked when you were 18?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:12:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spinifex23</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230626</link>	
		<description>If they&apos;re into art, a decent drawing pad, some pencils, and an eraser or two would run about $20. &lt;br&gt;
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Otherwise, I&apos;d have to second the idea of a gift certificate to a bookstore or a clothing store.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:38:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230628</link>	
		<description>A Discman, if you don&apos;t already have an iPod.&lt;br&gt;
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The Arcade Fire&apos;s CD, &quot;Funeral.&quot;&lt;br&gt;
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Beethoven&apos;s A-Minor String Quartet.&lt;br&gt;
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The Moleskine is an excellent suggestion; a collected poems of W. B. Yeats would be good, too, or if poetry is not the right kind of thing, then maybe a good book, like &quot;Down and Out in Paris and London.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:44:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sequential</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230629</link>	
		<description>For the man in sales, a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cafepress.com/metafilter.3808581&quot;&gt;coffee mug&lt;/a&gt;, a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005JKG9/qid=1103866745/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/104-7091599-8259169?v=glance&amp;s=dvd&amp;n=507846&quot;&gt;movie&lt;/a&gt; and subscriptions to industry specific magazines.  If they are reasonably serious about sales, their are countess books on the topic that would make excellent gifts.&lt;br&gt;
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If the budget were less restrictive, I&apos;d say a subscription to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salesforce.com&quot;&gt;Salesforce&lt;/a&gt; or a copy of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.act.com/&quot;&gt;ACT&lt;/a&gt;.  Then again, that may be overkill depending on the kind of sales he does.&lt;br&gt;
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And if he&apos;s anything like the sales guys I know, two five dollar Red Bull and Vodkas and a ten dollar lap dance would be the gift that keeps on giving.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:45:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sequential</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Mhead</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230634</link>	
		<description>A daily medatation or daily reflection book. Some nice stationary and stamps. A good Day Runner/Personal Planner. A coffee maker or electric tea pot. Sounds like he has a good Aunt.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:59:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: departure lounge</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230643</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?pid=2679 &quot;&gt;Holga camera&lt;/a&gt;?  With a roll of 120 film, please.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:50:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Luther Blissett</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230653</link>	
		<description>Given that he&apos;s 18, and assuming &quot;creative mind&quot; means &quot;a desire or inclination to write,&quot; chances are he&apos;d appreciate Ferlinghetti&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Coney Island of the Mind&lt;/em&gt;, Bukowski&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Hot Water Music&lt;/em&gt;, and Selby&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Last Exit to Brooklyn&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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When I first read them, they made me realize that I wasn&apos;t alone in the universe.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:55:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Luther Blissett</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: andrew cooke</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230679</link>	
		<description>i think a film camera and/or developing kit is a really good idea, as is a 120 format.  unfortunately the one suggested by departure lounge looks pants.  i wonder what you could get second hand?  assuming you can get the camera for $20 somehow, you can probably also run to the pot/spool for developing, some chemicals and paper.  that would be enough to shoot a roll, develop it, and make contact prints in the sun.  you could print out help from the &apos;net.  again 120 format would be better because the contact prints are a decent size (almost polaroid).&lt;br&gt;
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it depends, as others have said, what &quot;creative mind&quot; means.  at that age i know i found photography a good way to start exploring more, err, creative things.  i think it helps that it uses machines and chemicals, which made me feel a bit more secure (being a young technicaly-minded male...); i doubt i&apos;d have been confident enough to start writing much in a notebook (even a &lt;em&gt;moleskine&lt;/em&gt;....)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:32:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>andrew cooke</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: andrew cooke</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230684</link>	
		<description>if the aunt is in another city, a map would be useful, as would some kind of multi-use ticket for public transport.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:57:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>andrew cooke</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: croutonsupafreak</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#230819</link>	
		<description>Thanks for all the tips, guys. I think I&apos;ll probably get him a gift certificate for books or music, since I know he likes both but I don&apos;t know his specific states well.&lt;br&gt;
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I don&apos;t want to get him anything too valuable, since he&apos;s a bit of a couch-surfer at the moment and it could easily disappear from his life.&lt;br&gt;
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To clarify, I&apos;m not the aunt. I&apos;m his cousin&apos;s girlfriend. Last Christmas his aunt got him one present and nobody else gave him anything, and I want to make sure that doesn&apos;t happen again this year.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:59:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fishfucker</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#231082</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;unfortunately the one suggested by departure lounge looks pants.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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i&apos;m not sure if this means &quot;suck&quot;, but holgas are supposedly &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.photographyreview.com/pscCameras/Medium,Format/Holga/PRD_292200_3107crx.aspx#reviews&quot;&gt;rich with artistic possibility&lt;/a&gt;. Every time i see them mentioned somone always mentions how fun they are. &lt;br&gt;
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the fact that they&apos;re built shoddily gives them a look that&apos;s quite unlike well made cameras, and probably quite satisfying to someone just getting introduced to film.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:52:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fishfucker</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: fishfucker</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/13311/Christmas-Shopping-for-18yearold#231084</link>	
		<description>here&apos;s some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freeart.com/freeart/holga.html&quot;&gt;holga photos&lt;/a&gt; to give you an idea of the look.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:55:24 -0800</pubDate>
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