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	<title>Comments on: Forum software</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:40:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Forum software</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/125155/Forum-software</link>	
		<description>Forum software questions.  (1) As a user, which type of forum software (vBulletin, phpBB, SMF, other) do you like best from in terms of usability?  (2) If you&apos;re an admin, which forum software do you like best, having tried at least a few types?  (3) Which forum software is considered to be most/least resistant to spambots and spammers? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  Insight and anecdotes are appreciated, as are links to resources on choosing between forum packages and perhaps new forum packages outside the vBulletin-phpBB-SMF triad.  Feel free to mention any mod kits that tighten a forum against spammers.&lt;br&gt;
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My own general experiences:&lt;br&gt;
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- Vbulletin is awesome, flexible, and is resistant to spam without mod kits, but it&apos;s expensive and puts you on an annual payment treadmill to get upgrades, even if you want to buy it outright.  This is why I only operate a couple of forums with vBulletin.  I also suspect from past experience that it may be CPU intensive and may not work well on shared hosting.&lt;br&gt;
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- phpBB3 seems to attract more spammers than other forum packages, and the out-of-the-box configuration has poor or kludgy spam tools; my experience is that phpBB3 should never be deployed without mod kits or it will get overrun with spam.&lt;br&gt;
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- SMF is small and elegant; I like it and am using it for one new forum, but I haven&apos;t used it long enough to know if I&apos;m going to have spam problems.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:01:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: likedoomsday</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/125155/Forum-software#1788171</link>	
		<description>(1) phpBB.&lt;br&gt;
(2) phpBB. Version 2 was easier to deal with than 3, but 3 is still better than everything else I&apos;ve tried .&lt;br&gt;
(3) No idea on this, but once I installed the usual anti-spam plugins on phpBB (both 2 and 3) I didn&apos;t have much trouble.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:40:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>likedoomsday</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Niomi</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/125155/Forum-software#1788175</link>	
		<description>Hearsay is that SMF will be easiest on your CPU and bandwidth.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:44:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Niomi</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: litterateur</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/125155/Forum-software#1788216</link>	
		<description>I had been on several message boards that utilized vBulletin, and had quickly gotten used to its UI.  &lt;br&gt;
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So when I had to create a forum for my University&apos;s English Department, I was stumped, because I had no budget whatsoever.  &lt;br&gt;
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But I stumbled across &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.proboards.com/&quot;&gt;ProBoards&lt;/a&gt;, fully customizeable, similar to vBulletin, and &lt;strong&gt;free&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:15:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>litterateur</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: chazlarson</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/125155/Forum-software#1788260</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been running a phpBB forum for a few years now, and I recommend it with no reservations because I&apos;ve visited it as a admin maybe once in the last two years.&lt;br&gt;
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No problems at all, with spam or anything else.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:42:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chazlarson</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: unixrat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/125155/Forum-software#1788266</link>	
		<description>SMF has been very good to me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:43:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>unixrat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: majick</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/125155/Forum-software#1788275</link>	
		<description>I currently run &lt;a href=&quot;http://getvanilla.com/&quot;&gt;Vanilla&lt;/a&gt; for a small group of folks.  It&apos;s decent, straightforward, and not chock full of the &quot;forumness&quot; idioms that plague most current message board software.  It&apos;s also extremely modular, and can be enhanced with plugins rather than the fleet of patches, manual hacks, and vicious chopping at the code that phpBB requires.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:48:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>majick</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: GJSchaller</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/125155/Forum-software#1788344</link>	
		<description>I used phpBB2 when it was a part of phpnuke, and suffered for it - hackers used an exploit within phpBB2&apos;s code to screw with my site repeatedly.  From what I understand, however, this was the fault of phpnuke for not upgrading / patching their internalized version of phpBB.&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve been using SMF 1.0.X and 1.1.X, and have been happy with it.  Easy to administer, simple to load, nice selection of modules, good community, and free.  Spam has been a bit of an issue, but not terribly so - I recently blocked any IPs from Russia from accessing the site (since we&apos;re a local club in the New York area only, it shouldn&apos;t be an issue), and that helped a lot.  There may have been other solutions, but this was simple and effective.&lt;br&gt;
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My SMF is embedded into a Joomla site using JFusion, so I am holding off on SMF 2 until it&apos;s out, stable, and JFusion works with it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:20:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>GJSchaller</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/125155/Forum-software#1788522</link>	
		<description>I recently launched a phpBB3 forum and while the software is inherently good, it is a total pain in the ass if you want to customize it because there aren&apos;t very many mods developed for it.  It seemed like every time I wanted a piece of functionality, I would find it for phpBB2, but not for 3 and that made me (and my users) sad.  That said, I haven&apos;t had a problem with spam (but it hasn&apos;t been too long--a couple of months) so I don&apos;t know if your assertion about that is true.  If you want to go that route, I&apos;d check first to see if the functionality you want can be had.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:50:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: DarlingBri</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/125155/Forum-software#1788964</link>	
		<description>I have installed and run what feels like a billion forums in the last 15 years. I think I&apos;ve used every incarnation of everything on your list, and a handful of others. Which I point out only to say that I am completely and totally in love with &lt;a href=&quot;http://getvanilla.com/&quot;&gt;Vanilla&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br&gt;
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The whole first week I ran it, I kept getting up and walking out of my office so I could tell my husband once again how great it is. And oh God, how I love the user interface. It&apos;s like the &quot;Oh. Duh.&quot; revolution I&apos;ve been waiting for for 15 years without even knowing.&lt;br&gt;
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The standard anti-spam plugins are very effective.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:55:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DarlingBri</dc:creator>
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