Can you think of any movies with on-screen references to scenes or subplots left on the cutting room floor?
June 10, 2009 11:20 AM   Subscribe

At the end of The Goonies (1985), when the kids are on the beach being interviewed by the press, Data says something like, "The octopus was very scary." He was referring to a scene that was cut from the final film (YouTube, TERRIBLE quality). This tickles me. Can you think of any other movies with on-screen references to scenes or subplots left on the cutting room floor?
posted by dirtdirt to Media & Arts (38 answers total) 21 users marked this as a favorite
 
Best answer: It's minor, but the peanut brittle in Back to the Future comes to mind: George McFly, inexplicably, pours a box of peanut brittle into a bowl at dinnertime; in an earlier scene, which was cut, George, ever the pushover, buys a whole case of the stuff from a kid selling it door-to-door.
posted by uncleozzy at 11:23 AM on June 10, 2009 [7 favorites]


Best answer: The Bride, in Kill Bill 2, mentions how her truck (The Pussy Wagon) died when talking to the Mexican guy about where Bill is.

In a deleted scene, The Pussy Wagon was destroyed by Gogo (from Vol. 1)'s sister.

So, kinda-sorta.
posted by elder18 at 11:27 AM on June 10, 2009


Best answer: From The Wizard of Oz entry at IMDb: "The witch tells the flying monkey 'I've sent a little insect on ahead of you, to take the fight out of them,' a reference to the deleted jitterbug scene."
posted by Knappster at 11:35 AM on June 10, 2009 [3 favorites]


Best answer: In the new Star Trek, there are two references to destroyed Klingon prison planets from a cut sub-plot, which I will not describe so as to not spoiler anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
posted by Jairus at 11:37 AM on June 10, 2009


Best answer: In Star Wars in the Death Star attack scene Like cries out 'Biggs' when he dies. But there is little indication why Luke cares about Biggs. There is a cut scene with Luke and Biggs on Tatooine where Biggs tells Luke that he's going to join the rebellion. Luke and Biggs are friends from home.
posted by Confess, Fletch at 11:44 AM on June 10, 2009


Best answer: Also in the Wizard of Oz, supposedly Dorothy's comment to the Scarecrow that "I'm going to miss you most of all" was a holdover from a cut subplot where, in Kansas, Dorothy and Ray Bolger's character shared an innocent romance. (Sorry I can't find the official source; I tried Googling it and the results got really creepy really fast.)
posted by Ladybug Parade at 11:50 AM on June 10, 2009 [2 favorites]


Best answer: "An Elvis man should love this." Mia Wallace says this to Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction just before going into Jack Rabbit Slim's. It's a reference to some earlier dialog (I have no idea if it made it past the script onto the cutting room floor or not) about everybody being either a Beatles fan or an Elvis fan.
posted by kimota at 11:51 AM on June 10, 2009


Best answer: In Ferris Bueller they make a comment about "eating pancreas" late in the movie to Cameron, which was a reference to them ordering sweetbreads in the snooty restaurant, but that part was cut.
posted by librarianamy at 11:55 AM on June 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


Best answer: The Big Sleep has countless examples - dozens, at minimum. Considerable cuts were made before the theatrical release in order to highlight the Bogart/Bacall romance, and the already convoluted plot became nearly impossible to follow as a result (amazingly, this only made the film better).
posted by susanvance at 12:14 PM on June 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


Like odinsdream's example, the trailer of Rocky IV has a couple of scenes with the boxing board, where they say they won't sanction any fight in Russia. They say something like "he has had one professional fight and one man is dead!"

There is reference to the meeting on the magazine headlines before the press conference announcing the Russia fight, and they say something like "this is NOT a sanctioned fight" at the press conference. You don't need to see the cut scene to understand the later reference, so this is not an example like Data and the octopus, but it sort of qualifies.
posted by AgentRocket at 12:17 PM on June 10, 2009


Best answer: * BLADE RUNNER SPOILERS *


In the film Blade Runner the protagonist Deckard is a detective assigned with finding and killing replicants (androids), and at one point he proves to a replicant that she is artificial by describing some of her memories that only she would know. In another scene, there's a quick shot of Deckard dreaming about a unicorn. At the very end of the film, a rival detective that had a habit of making little origami figures leaves an origami unicorn outside of Deckard's apartment. This is supposed to suggest that Deckard himself could be a replicant. In the original theatrical release, though, the unicorn scene was cut from the film, so the significance of the origami figure is lost. The director's cut of the film later released on DVD includes the deleted scene. More info here.
posted by burnmp3s at 12:20 PM on June 10, 2009 [4 favorites]


"An Elvis man should love this." Mia Wallace says this to Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction just before going into Jack Rabbit Slim's. It's a reference to some earlier dialog (I have no idea if it made it past the script onto the cutting room floor or not) about everybody being either a Beatles fan or an Elvis fan.
posted by kimota at 2:51 PM on June 10 [+] [!]


Oh yeah, this scene was included as a bonus at the end of the VHS copy of Pulp Fiction that I had. Mia is interviewing Vincent before their "date", asking him these questions like "do you listen, or just wait to talk?" and "Beatles or Elvis?", shooting the whole thing with a camcorder. It's a longish scene, not really necessary, but it sucks that it was cut because it ruins Mia's introduction.
When she first shows up in the film, you just see her mouth by the mic talking to Vincent, then you see just her legs as she's walking out to meet him, and a few other shots like that. Then you've got this scene where she's hidden behind a camcorder doing the interview, and at the end of it she pulls the camera away and it's kind of a dramatic reveal cause she looks so striking. It's all in the script here. The way they actually left it, there are all these teases and then all of a sudden she's just kind of there in the car on the way to JackRabbit Slim's.
posted by Who_Am_I at 12:24 PM on June 10, 2009


There was the joke in Major League that was in all the commercials that never showed up in the film (they may've re-used the joke in one of the sequels) where one guy is like "that ball wouldn't have been out of a lot of parks" and the pitcher says "name one" and the other guy (or a third guy) says "Yellowstone".
posted by indiebass at 12:28 PM on June 10, 2009


You see it all the time - most movies have significant elements that did not sufficiently work or for some reason were cut, and generally you don't need independent confirmation to spot some signs of reshuffling - any time that something seems incongruous in a certain way in a movie, it's a safe bet that an element in that scene was assuming something that has been cut.

In the recent Star Trek movie for example, Uhuru follows Spock into an elevator, and they have a little interaction that indicates they already know each other, but which comes out of nowhere. I have no information on whether anything was cut, but that sort of thing is a giveaway that the scene(s) intended to introduce or develop that subplot were initially intended to be in the movie, but got cut, while scenes that reference those cut scenes (the elevator), were retained.
I think it's also safe to say that it's also an intentional surprise - once the decision was made to cut the introductory scenes, having the scene come out of nowhere would have been a deliberate choice. The same would be true of the Goonies octopus - it probably wasn't a slip-up, in that the editors would liekly be aware he was talking about something that was cut before they released the film, it was likely the best way they could cut it together.
posted by -harlequin- at 12:44 PM on June 10, 2009


In the recent Star Trek movie for example, Uhuru follows Spock into an elevator, and they have a little interaction that indicates they already know each other, but which comes out of nowhere.

Almost completely insignificant SPOILER:

That one didn't come out of nowhere. It was set up when he initially assigned her to the Farragut to avoid the possibility that some would think he was giving her a better assignment because of their relationship. "Did you not say that I have exceptional oral sensitivity?"
posted by Pater Aletheias at 12:50 PM on June 10, 2009 [3 favorites]


Best answer: Another PTA movie: in Boogie Nights, Wahlberg's and Jane's characters consider selling fake drugs for money to "fix the 'Vette," or something along those lines. Cut from the final film was a scene with Dirk Diggler crashing his Corvette while distracted and snorting coke.
posted by Mapes at 12:52 PM on June 10, 2009


Best answer: In Stripes the John Landis character yells out "Where's The Winnabago" to Bill Murray's character while they scuffle on the tarmac. The Urban assault vehicle had yet to be introduced in the movie. I always thought this was odd, but have never seen any outtakes.
posted by Gungho at 12:52 PM on June 10, 2009


That one didn't come out of nowhere. It was set up when he initially assigned her to the Farragut to avoid the possibility that some would think he was giving her a better assignment because of their relationship. "Did you not say that I have exceptional oral sensitivity?"

This line has been misquoted in about a dozen reviews, including Anthony Lane's review in the New Yorker. She's a linguist and communications expert talking about her ability to comprehend alien languages and signals. Does it occur to no one that she's saying "aural" not "oral"? I know the double entendre is the point, but seriously. "Aural sensitivity", "ORAL dexterity." C'mon, Anthony Lane.
posted by The Bellman at 1:09 PM on June 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


Best answer: More Blade Runner:

Capt. Bryant gives an incorrect number of skin jobs on the loose (because a character was cut).

In a scene with Roy on the phone, the deleted character's hand/arm can be seen.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 1:11 PM on June 10, 2009


In the recent Star Trek movie for example, Uhuru follows Spock into an elevator, and they have a little interaction that indicates they already know each other, but which comes out of nowhere.

It definitely didn't come out of nowhere, it was foreshadowed, not by the oral sensitivity line but Spock's response: "I wanted to avoid even the appearance of favoritism." They exchange meaningful glances, she asks what she can do to help him--I liked that it was subtly there all the time in the background, without hitting the audience over the head with it.

And you know, that's the way it should have come out. The relationship shouldn't be obvious from their behavior to an outsider like Kirk, if they are both professionals.
posted by misha at 1:18 PM on June 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


Best answer: Here's an unusual one.

I can't recall the character names or the exact details, and I have no desire to revisit the film because it's Dungeons & Dragons, one of the worst movies ever made.

There's a scene in which the two main characters are sucked into a magical map. After a few moments of silence -- or perhaps Marlon Wayans sat there and said something both anachronistic and incredibly not funny -- they zap out of the map, and the girl says to the guy something like, "I can't believe you told those Map Spirits we were going to Greyhawk!"

Everyone in the theater went, "Uh...What the hell?" Clearly we had just missed an entire scene.

Sure enough, on the DVD (shut up), there is some footage of this exciting encounter with the Map Spirits. It seems the scene involved a lot of effects (because the map was supposed to be a swirly, spooky, other dimension) and the filmmakers simply ran out of money. It's unfortunate because Map Spirits are such classic D&D characters, right up there with elves and orcs.

Way to go, writers! You nailed it!

What were we talking about?
posted by Flying Saucer at 2:09 PM on June 10, 2009 [4 favorites]


Capt. Bryant gives an incorrect number of skin jobs on the loose (because a character was cut).

They fixed Bryant's line in the "Final Cut" of Blade Runner.
posted by octothorpe at 2:09 PM on June 10, 2009


PaterAletheias, I thought that was supposed to be aural...? Or am I missing the joke?
posted by Neofelis at 2:39 PM on June 10, 2009 [1 favorite]


Best answer: The movie Legend has several small quirks that reveal significant cuts between versions.

1. When Jack first meets Gump, and Gump realizes the winter is Jack's fault, he casts a spell with his fiddle, intending to dance Jack to death, before relenting and agreeing to let Jack live if he can answer a riddle. In the most often seen theatrical version, as well as VHS, DVD, and Laserdisc, they jump over the dancing part, so you just see Jack go from dry and frozen, huddling under a blanket for warmth, to a hot and sweaty Jack breathing hard and exhausted from the dance you don't see.

2. The scene with Meg was originally much longer, and explains why Jack's shield jumps from one arm to another.

3. The whole explanation of why Gump can't accompany Jack into the dragon's lair (or the fact that it IS a dragon's lair) is left out, leaving the watcher with no obvious reason why Gump can't follow Jack to the sword and armor set.

4. During the scene where the goblins are chasing the first unicorn they shot, you can see an extra goblin that ended up cut from all versions of the film.
posted by nomisxid at 2:47 PM on June 10, 2009


It definitely didn't come out of nowhere, it was foreshadowed, not by the oral sensitivity line but Spock's response: "I wanted to avoid even the appearance of favoritism."

and it was jokey-foreshadowed by kirk not even able to get her first name, but haha spock's been seeing her on the sly the whole time. I don't think they meant to tell us that earlier - the whole set up was that it was a gut punch to the player kirk, and victory for nerdy spock.
posted by mdn at 2:52 PM on June 10, 2009


Another PTA movie: in Boogie Nights, Wahlberg's and Jane's characters consider selling fake drugs for money to "fix the 'Vette," or something along those lines. Cut from the final film was a scene with Dirk Diggler crashing his Corvette while distracted and snorting coke.

Haven't seen it in a while, but doesn't the Vette need to be fixed because Alfred Molina shot it a couple of times with a shotgun?
posted by shakespeherian at 2:58 PM on June 10, 2009


Best answer: A classic is from This is Spinal Tap. There was originally a subplot where a band called "The Dose" opened for Tap on their tour. The lead singer slept with each of the members of Tap, and one by one the band members appeared with herpes sores around their mouth. (When Ian Faith, the manager, first hears how bad The Dose is he wants to kick them off the tour, but everyone says no. Later in the movie, it comes up for another vote and the drummer - the only member who hadn't yet slept with the lead singer - is the only remaining no vote.)

The whole subplot was removed, but there is a scene where both David and Nigel appear with very obvious, unexplained cold sores on their lips.
posted by AgentRocket at 3:52 PM on June 10, 2009


Best answer: In 24 Hour Party People there's a scene where Steve Coogan as Tony Wilson mentions all the people that had cameos in the film, including Vini Reilly of The Durutti Column in a scene that was cut from the film. He says it'll probably be on the DVD (not in any edition I've seen).
posted by Kattullus at 8:42 PM on June 10, 2009


Best answer: Stepford Wives (the 04 remake) was a total disaster of a movie that was basically made unwatchable by deleted scenes. Here's an entire chunk of the IMDB trivia page detailing it.
posted by librarylis at 9:09 PM on June 10, 2009


Best answer: Yet more Blade Runner:

There was supposed to be a scene with Holden in the hospital after he fatefully asks Leon about his mother, as referenced by Deckard: "...he can breathe OK, as long as nobody unplugs him".
posted by biscotti at 8:17 AM on June 11, 2009


Best answer: In Star Trek Generations the Malcolm McDowell character refers to Geordi's interrogation saying "his heart just wasn't in it". Then later back on the Enterprise Geordi is given a medical exam. These reference a cut scene in which McDowell was torturing Geordi by stopping and starting his heart.
posted by arniec at 9:59 AM on June 11, 2009


Best answer: There's a cut-for-time version of the Matrix in existence where they've removed the scene in the Oracle's living room where Neo meets the Buddhist-looking kid who tangles spoons.

Later on in the movie Neo and Trinity use a clamp to ascend an elevator shaft at speed. Just before they undertake this seemingly risky maneuver, Neo mutters "There is no spoon" to comfort himself. Without the cut scene, this utterance makes no sense.
posted by Cantdosleepy at 10:47 AM on June 11, 2009


Best answer: Not sure if this is totally related but near the end of Galaxy Quest when Tim Allen & Sigourney Weaver's characters are trying to get to the Omega-13 device, Weaver's character's shirt is suddenly totally unzipped and her bra is showing. If you watch the deleted scenes you can see where she unzips it in order to distract one of the bad guys but in the actual movie there is no reference to why she is now barely wearing a shirt.
posted by magnetsphere at 11:10 AM on June 11, 2009


Response by poster: Nice!

It's funny - both the Spinal Tap one (which I knew about) and the Back to the Future one (which I didn't) work GREAT as they are in the movie. The peanut brittle, to me, is one of the funniest and truest parts of that character. It wouldn't be nearly as funny with the explanation scene. McFly is just such a sad weirdo, eating peanut brittle out of a bowl while cackling at the Honeymooners. Crispin Glover deserved an Oscar. And the cold sores in This is Spinal Tap are the same way - funnier without the specifics of the back story.

"We ate pancreas", too. Why bother putting the whole scene in there when you can do the trick with three words? We know how the scene would play without needing to see it.

Also, I thought of one that sort of works: in Love, Actually the kid (Sam?) was supposed to be some sort of gymnastics prodigy, and this was to be talked about in various scenes. Those scenes would have made the scene where Sam does all his gymnastics to bypass the airport security make some sort of sense.
posted by dirtdirt at 8:35 AM on June 12, 2009


Response by poster: Oh, and if that Matrix one is accurate that's just NUTS. I mean, smashing hlicopters into buildings is cool, but isn't the whole spoon thing, like, the philosophical point of the movie? Uh, such as it is...
posted by dirtdirt at 8:38 AM on June 12, 2009


I'd always taken the herpes sores in This Is Spinal Tap as evidence that Nigel and David had a secret romantic relationship, which contributed to how Nigel felt about Jeanine-- not only did he not like her, but he was somewhat jealous.

I think I like my interpretation better.
posted by shakespeherian at 10:06 AM on June 12, 2009 [1 favorite]


In "The Doors," Billy Idol is credited very prominently as playing a character named, I think, "Cat." As far as I know he does not appear in the film at all. This is because he had a near-fatal motorcycle accident before or during shooting.
posted by drjimmy11 at 10:33 AM on June 12, 2009


In Jurassic Park, there's a scene where they come across a triceratops lying on its side, and Laura Dern's character examines it, listens to its breathing and determines that it's sick. Nothing else is made of that in the movie. There's a whole subplot in the book about why all the triceratops are getting sick and quite a lot more comes out of that. Although I don't remember the details of that subplot because it's been many years since I read it.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 2:54 AM on June 14, 2009


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