Comments on: Using Online Radio for Foreign Language Immersion

Question: Using Online Radio for Foreign Language Immersion

RavinDave — Fri, 29 May 2009 07:27:31 -0800

Looking for favorites among the MeFi regulars in the category of: Foreign Language radio streams, suitable for language immersion and/or passive practice.

Yeah, I can use Google with the best of'em. I'm well aware there are dozens of ginormous lists and dedicated websites categorizing an absurdly large number of radio stations from around the globe.

Problem is -- precious few of them seem to be of much value. I log onto some Dutch site advertised as "News" and "Talk" and it is invariably playing 90% American music (usually from the 80's). It's a bit discouraging.

And I'm also aware of mega-sites like BBC, VOA, RFI and Deutsche-Welle. These are wonderful resources for the language learner, but I keep thinking: I can do better. I can find something a bit less polished, more colloquial. Something with a more local flavor.

Thus, I turn to the MeFi hive mind to see if anyone has any specific bookmarks they might wanna share.

The ideal stations would not only have plenty of straight news broadcasts, but also interviews, discussions, maybe some caller interaction. The less music, the better (I can find that easily enough).

My particular interest at the moment are:

STRONG: Mandarin, Japanese, Russian, Spanish
MIDDLING: Italian, French, German

But, if you know of a "Portuguese" or "Cantonese" or "whatever" station, feel free to mention it. I have several friends who are always on the lookout for something and perhaps their particular interest will be addressed.

By: maudlin

maudlin — Fri, 29 May 2009 07:33:49 -0800

Unpolished and colloquial? Try local talk or sports radio. I just recommended two radio stations from Québec in another question (CHRC; CKAC). Both feature lots of different speakers, most speaking in fairly twangy/crunchy local accents.

A great resource for worldwide radio is RadioTime. This search brought up a huge list of Spanish talk radio stations.

By: maudlin

maudlin — Fri, 29 May 2009 07:36:09 -0800

(I know you didn't ask for an index, but this is a truly awesome search engine that gives you specific shows and their parent stations, plus instant access to streaming broadcasts).

By: RavinDave

RavinDave — Fri, 29 May 2009 08:01:05 -0800

Thanx Maudlin ... I'm busy investigating now. And I don't mind indices, I'm just haven't had much luck with'em. They're rarely tagged well and the entries have a short shelf-live. This looks promising though.

By: dnash

dnash — Fri, 29 May 2009 09:27:32 -0800

For French, recently I've started listening to France Bleu. It's a network of regional French stations, part of the overall Radio France group. I listen to the "Ile de France" (Paris) station. There are news reports, traffic reports, interviews...from 8:00pm-midnight (Paris time) there's a call-in song request/dedication show, so you hear the host talking with callers casually, and most of the music is actually French. (Unlike the youth-oriented rock station "Le Mouv" where I hear a lot of UK/American stuff like Coldplay.)

By: dubitable

dubitable — Fri, 29 May 2009 10:13:23 -0800

Japanese. This very moment I'm listening to a stream here:

http://asahi.co.jp/webio/index.html

These are all talk radio streams, and change frequently (every day, I *think*...). Unfortunately my Japanese is still crap so I can't tell you that much more about it now.

I will also echo RadioTime, but it can be erratic--it's how I found the above link though.

Another great source for Japanese sound that I've yet to fully mine is the AJATT site: he's got a lot of great links of all sorts for learning Japanese (check out the list on the left under 'external sites,' and also check out the main table of contents page for more ideas on Japanese audio sources, free and otherwise).

If I think of anything else I'll post it.

By: RavinDave

RavinDave — Fri, 29 May 2009 10:29:42 -0800

dubitable ... funnily enough, it was an AJATT fan that asked me if I knew of a good Japanese link. That'll come in real handy! You might have made me a hero.

Truth be told, his site has some kick-ass resources, but could really use a bit of major-league tidying up and CSSing-- so I'm not surprised my friend didn't see it (if he even thought to check).

By: dubitable

dubitable — Fri, 29 May 2009 10:34:59 -0800

Yeah, you're right about AJATT; there's a TREMENDOUS amount of great stuff on that site but it can be hard to sift through. I keep finding new stuff. Hmm...maybe that'd be a good project, organize AJATT for Mr. Khatzumoto...

Anyways, glad I could be of some service, and I'll put more up as I find it.

By: RavinDave

RavinDave — Fri, 29 May 2009 10:48:32 -0800

Wow ... I started running keywords: ABC JAPANESE through maudlin's RadioTime link and found most of the programs dubitable linked to directly.

VERY nice. Clear, sharp, animated Japanese conversation.

By: sevenstars

sevenstars — Fri, 29 May 2009 11:19:17 -0800

Another vote for France Bleu. I started out listening to the Basse Normandie station but recently switched to Touraine and can actually understand it better. Evelyne Adam, who does the evening call-in show dnash mentioned, has one of the greatest, warmest voices.

Right now there's a football/soccer game on, so I could be learning the vocabulary were I paying attention. Past football broadcasts have taught me that "Oh la la la la la la la la la!" is still alive, at least in the French sports world.

By: RavinDave

RavinDave — Fri, 29 May 2009 11:33:07 -0800

I ran the same search at RadioTime looking for French Bleu stream. I've only had time to go through a few, and (so far) I've found more music than I'm looking for. I did score a nice hit or two, though. I'll keep plugging away at it (unless someone can suggest a specific channel?).

By: maudlin

maudlin — Fri, 29 May 2009 11:36:20 -0800

You have a typo: try france bleu talk.

By: dnash

dnash — Fri, 29 May 2009 12:18:43 -0800

RavinDave: with the France Bleu stations I think it depends on time of day, sometimes there's more talk than others. While there is music, the talk in between songs sounds to me just what you're looking for in terms of "less polished, more colloquial. Something with a more local flavor." My French isn't good enough to catch 90% of what's going on, but during the "La Compil'" evening call in program (which is mid afternoon my time in Chicago) I know enough to understand some of the "Bon soir, comment allez vous ce soir?" "Ca va bien, merci.." which lead into longer chats. The host often talks to callers for a full couple of minutes between songs, so you hear a whole little conversation happen. (And personally I like some of the music - Benabar has become one of my favorite singers, in any language.)

Radio France has other stations that are all talk - like France Info and France Inter. I haven't listened to those much myself. But it's really with France Bleu that I feel like I'm listening to "local radio." It amuses me to sit at work in Chicago hearing about traffic jams in Paris, or that the #12 Metro line is down.

By: mdonley

mdonley — Fri, 29 May 2009 13:18:05 -0800

NEWS IN SLOW SPANISH is amazing.

By: maudlin

maudlin — Fri, 29 May 2009 13:51:35 -0800

mdonley, that's brilliant! How did you find that? I couldn't find the equivalent in French, but there is Le journal en français facile at RFI, which should be 10 minutes of streaming or downloaded news, plus an associated script you can read along with as necessary. However, both the stream and the download on that page are just music right now, no news. Weird.

But that RFI teaching site has a lot of other resources that are useful if you want to learn to speak French with a funny accent. This bilingual police procedural seems like a useful starting point for total beginners. (I know, topic drift. Sorry, RavinDave.)

By: RavinDave

RavinDave — Fri, 29 May 2009 14:19:47 -0800

Oh, not at all. We're falling off the page shortly anyway.

Though if you're going to plug RFI and "News in Slow Spanish" (a great find, btw) gets a nod, I'm compelled to mention: "Langsam Gesprochene Nachrichten" via Deutsche Welle.

By: helios

helios — Sat, 30 May 2009 03:47:12 -0800

The radiotime website (and it's associated iPhone app Wunderradio) are amazing. You can listen to thousands of actual FM radio stations, from almost anywhere in the world.

I've spent countless hours listening to radio in languages I don't understand from places I've never been. I also use it extensively in learning French, and love listening to and discerning the different accents (in Switzerland, Québec, Belgium, Réunion, Tunisia, etc).

By: RavinDave

RavinDave — Sat, 30 May 2009 08:52:45 -0800

A friend of mine living in Shanghai gave me a GREAT tip for finding more conversational fare in China. Instead of the mainstream stations, he suggested locating one of the "traffic bands" (popular with taxi drivers, truckers, etc.).

Go to Baidu radio (I use this portal).
Run a search on: 交通广播

It may take you to another page where you'll need to run the search again. Just keep searchin' and clickin' -- you'll find one soon enough.

I'm currently listening to mms://221.212.91.236/FM925 a traffic band out of Harbin, in Heilongjiang (NE China).

By: Abiezer

Abiezer — Sat, 30 May 2009 22:26:19 -0800

I was going to suggest the traffic stations for Chinese too - about all I ever listen to - but the webcast for Beijing's wasn't working for me. As well as phone-ins about car maintenance and repair and the traffic news, you get serialized readings of classic novels like the Three Kingdoms in a pingshu style with the kind fo accents you could only dream about reproducing.