Comments on: Body Weight Set Point

Question: Body Weight Set Point

netbros — Wed, 20 May 2009 05:38:44 -0800

How to lose that stubborn, unwanted 5-7 pounds?

For nearly all of my adult life (I'm 56 now) I've had a very consistent weight of around 153-155 pounds. At 5' 9" that seems about right for me. I suppose you could call it my "set point." About a year ago I suddenly jumped up to 160 within a matter of a couple weeks, and have stayed there since. I just don't feel quite the same at 160.

In the past two months I have made a concerted effort to get back to my original set point with a healthy, reduced portions diet as well as regular, daily exercise that includes walking about three miles/day as well as sit-ups and push-ups. All of this has had no effect on my weight, up or down. I am still sitting at 160, seemingly no matter what I do.

What do I need to do differently to get back down to my 154 set point? Has my body simply reached another, higher set point and will be content to keep me here? What is to prevent another sudden six pound gain in the future? All hints, tips, and advice welcome. Thank you for your assistance.

By: Shoggoth

Shoggoth — Wed, 20 May 2009 05:55:33 -0800

It sounds like you're on the right track: Eat less, exercise more. What worked for me when I got stuck was to write down everything (everything!) I ate and all of my exercise. After you've done this for a week or so, it's easy to see some things you can change. For example, I realized I was eating 2-3 servings of cereal every morning, and cut that down to 1 serving (that's about 1,500 calories gone in a week right there). Another thing I'd suggest is to work more strength training into your exercise routine. Sit-ups and push-ups are a good start, but adding more muscle will help you burn more calories. Try and get with a personal trainer and hit the free weights. Good luck!

By: fire&wings

fire&wings — Wed, 20 May 2009 06:03:13 -0800

Look up carb cycling, it's a highly effective technique used by body builders to break weight plateaus.

By: chrisamiller

chrisamiller — Wed, 20 May 2009 06:07:23 -0800

If your weight isn't changing, then you're still burning the same amount of calories that you take in. Reduce your intake more, or burn more with increased exercise. (Hint - reducing intake is almost always easier). The usual formula is that a 3500 calorie deficit = losing 1 pound.

By: maudlin

maudlin — Wed, 20 May 2009 06:07:38 -0800

You're making moderate lifestyle changes that will probably yield moderate results if maintained long enough. If your general health is good, including your blood values, and if the way you eat and exercise now feels like something you can do for life, you may see all of those few pounds disappear, you may see only some of them disappear, or you may stay at 160 indefinitely, but you will still be healthy.

If it is really important that you try to lose those few pounds, then you are going to have to commit to more challenging exercise to wake up your body and move that set point. Try adding weight training 2-3 days a week, stretch every day, and add some more intense cardio. If you have a bike or can get a bike, that's a great way to get places and burn more calories. If you're competitive, you can track your mileage and take part in some of the MetaFilter/WeEndure cycling challenges.

Once you're used to more challenging steady state cardio, try intervals. In your three mile walks, try jogging for a minute/walking for 2 minutes, on and off, for a 10-15 minute period. Or go full throttle on your bike for 1 minute on, 2 minutes off. Intervals seem to kick start fat loss and improve cardio fitness more than staying with pure steady state cardio.

To get started weight training, go to Stumptuous, which is not just for women, honest! See Basics of a routine and this compendium of routines and browse through this page for lots of examples.. You don't need to go to a gym. Here's what you need for a home gym, but you can also try these alternatives.

By: b33j

b33j — Wed, 20 May 2009 06:26:52 -0800

See your doctor. Normally, I'd jump on the "heh, you aren't doing it right" bandwagon, but you clearly know how to maintain your weight having done it for so long, and the increase in padding that comes with age happens (as far as I know) from a much earlier age than 56. In any case, your doctor can check your thyroid (as well as everything else) and give you an idea about how many calories you should be looking at.

By: zerokey

zerokey — Wed, 20 May 2009 06:40:42 -0800

Perhaps you're retaining water? How's your sodium consumption? When was your last physical exam? I think any sudden, unattributable weight gain, especially when you already eat right and exercise, warrants a doctor visit and a few blood tests.

By: iconomy

iconomy — Wed, 20 May 2009 06:42:56 -0800

You lose muscle mass as you get older, so you have to eat less to maintain your weight. I'd suggest weight training to recoup some muscle so you can burn more calories throughout the day.

Also, you don't make clear whether or not you exercised before the weight gain. If you're just starting to work out now for the first time, you may be building muscle already...hard to say based on what you've told us. If you were already exercising and weight training and gained 6 pounds for no apparent reason, a trip to the doctor is definitely in order.

As a comparison point, I decided a few years ago to lose a little weight. I walked 7 miles a day for 3 months, and reduced my caloric intake to less than 1500 a day. I didn't lose one pound, and my best friend, walking 2 miles a day and eating the same, lost 30 pounds in the same time frame. I still mad when I think about it.

By: EmpressCallipygos

EmpressCallipygos — Wed, 20 May 2009 06:43:24 -0800

I faced a similar problem when I started exercising for the first time ever -- my weight was stubbornly staying put at precisely 162 pounds no matter what I did. For a solid four months.

However, I looked different. Within just a couple weeks I'd lost some inches around my hips, and a couple months later I was definitely looking more toned. Even though I was still tipping the scales at 162.

I just chalked it up to the fact that "maybe I am gaining in muscle an equal amount of what I am losing in fat." And I stopped paying as much attention to the number on the scale and paid more attention to the overall picture, and just trusted things. The number on the scale finally did start going down.

It could indeed just be that you are adding muscle mass sufficient to offset what you're losing. Adding the caveat, though, that I'm not an athlete nor a doctor by any stretch of the imagination, and that my education on this field consists strictly of my own anecdotal evidence combined with "I heard some people say something like that once and I guess it made sense".

By: netbros

netbros — Wed, 20 May 2009 06:49:06 -0800

How's your sodium consumption? When was your last physical exam?

Sodium levels are normal, average. My last physical was in March, 2009. All was well with blood work, PSA, etc. I spoke with my doc about the weight gain and she didn't seem concerned. I take Flomax for enlarged prostate, Allegra for allergies, Niaspan to stabilize my HDL. Until recently I only ate two meals a day, skipping breakfast. It was suggested I might have better luck with reduction if I started three smaller meals each day, so I've been doing that about a week now. I had already reduced portions on the two daily meals a couple months ago.

By: Fupped Duck

Fupped Duck — Wed, 20 May 2009 07:09:49 -0800

I've been thin all my life, to the point where I couldn't gain a pound even if I tried to... until I was in my early thirties. I can gain weight now, but manage to keep to a reasonable weight by eating reasonably.
However, I noticed that I always gain 3-5lbs in the fall, and they stubbornly stay on until the spring when the smae 3-5 just magically come off without effort.
So I'll suggest that you consider that there might also be a seasonality to your weight gain.

By: Chrysalis

Chrysalis — Wed, 20 May 2009 07:43:33 -0800

Good that you're not skipping breakfast anymore but 6 small meals a day rather than 3 large ones can make a difference.

By: achompas

achompas — Thu, 21 May 2009 00:39:25 -0800

Good that you're not skipping breakfast anymore but 6 small meals a day rather than 3 large ones can make a difference.

Disagreed in that this advice -- while generic because of its effectiveness -- may not apply to someone his age (with a potentially slower metabolic process).

By: netbros

netbros — Thu, 21 May 2009 15:44:06 -0800

Thanks for the help everyone. Lots of good information.

By: netbros

netbros — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:37:43 -0800

Status update. Nearly four weeks later, I have increased my daily walk from three to five miles, including significant hills, and to about 90-95 minutes. I am carrying three pounds of weight in each hand while walking. I am drinking a lot more water, anywhere from 80-96 ounces/day. I have been eating a small breakfast every day, and am having smaller meals generally, with fewer carbs.

Result. Still at 160 pounds. But my legs and lungs are better.

By: netbros

netbros — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:01:22 -0800

Status update. I finally seem to have found the key for me. I continued doing everything as above, but I reduced my intake of caffeine-free Diet Coke from the equivalent of three cans per day to one. Almost immediately the weight started coming off... five pounds in the first two weeks and another three since.

Result. I now stand at 152.

By: netbros

netbros — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:09:43 -0800

Status update. I continue to drop about three pounds every two weeks. In summary, 4-5 mile walk every day. 1500-2000 calories food each day. 72-90 ounces water each day. Light weights for upper body each day. Cut back caffeine-free Diet Coke to 10-12 oz. per day.

Result. I am now at 149 pounds. Probably about time to stabilize. I am satisfied with the weight loss, the additional strength, the better leg and lung power, and the overall way I feel. I have a spring to my step. :)

By: philfromhavelock

philfromhavelock — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 06:12:39 -0800

Thanks for the updates!