Comments on: Ukraine vs. The Ukraine

Question: Ukraine vs. The Ukraine

hal incandenza — Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:23:32 -0800

Ukraine vs. The Ukraine. Is the latter outdated now that Ukraine is an independent nation? Do Ukranians feel strongly about the difference? I hear people refer to it both ways.

By: Danelope

Danelope — Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:32:32 -0800

Ukraine or "The Ukraine"?

By: ikkyu2

ikkyu2 — Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:34:42 -0800

Steven Notley's 'Bob the Angry Flower.'

By: hal incandenza

hal incandenza — Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:38:20 -0800

Thanks, Danelope, that clears it up.

By: Dick Paris

Dick Paris — Sat, 27 Nov 2004 05:02:45 -0800

"A few neanderthal writers in the past have even promoted "the Ukraine" to reflect the original meaning "the borderland" in order to diminish the international political stature of Ukraine." [—empahsis mine]

Stopped reading at that point. The point is valid but if one is going to write about proper usage... I don't know, maybe "neaderthals" is acceptable scholarly usage.

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By: languagehat

languagehat — Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:26:47 -0800

My take, for what it's worth.

By: gimonca

gimonca — Sat, 27 Nov 2004 10:35:30 -0800

German has die Türkei and a few others besides.