Comments on: Take a look at this tool

Question: Take a look at this tool

cosmicbandito — Sat, 02 May 2009 21:52:32 -0800

Help me identify this weird tool I found while metal detecting.

Here's a picture:
http://picasaweb.google.com/matthew.hoy/UnidentifiedTool#
I found it near the foundation of an old cabin on a river.
It's about 4 inches long and 1/4" thick.

By: Flunkie

Flunkie — Sat, 02 May 2009 21:58:17 -0800

Looks like some flavor of a multi-wrench to me.

By: Miko

Miko — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:00:30 -0800

Looks like a latch.

By: Miko

Miko — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:02:40 -0800

...In other words, I wouldn't assume it's a tool. It looks more like a fixture. Imagine the right-hand piece closed off with a hole in the middle, rather than corroded through as is.

By: GuyZero

GuyZero — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:02:51 -0800

Yeah, it's basically several sizes of wrench in one flat tool.

By: transient

transient — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:03:10 -0800

Yeah; looks like it would be used for driving various sizes of nuts, with a nail-pull in the centre.

By: OrangeDrink

OrangeDrink — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:04:06 -0800

My guess is latch too. It almost looks like part of a keyhole on a chest.

By: Flunkie

Flunkie — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:07:05 -0800

I seriously doubt it's a latch. Why would it have multiple oddly-placed and differently-sized hexagonal cutouts? Again, I say multi-wrench.

By: carmicha

carmicha — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:12:17 -0800

I'm pretty sure I had one of these as a kid and that it was intended as an all-purpose bicycle tool. The slots fit the nuts holding your seat, pedals, etc., and I think it may have allowed you to adjust the spokes.

By: Miko

Miko — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:12:29 -0800

I suppose it could be a hex multitool. But if it's a hex wrench, it's not that old.

By: Burhanistan

Burhanistan — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:14:18 -0800

It looks like some kind of custom wrench accessory piece that fits on a handle that allows for interchangeable bits. The teardrop shaped hole in the middle would be where the retaining bolt went through, and the notch on the right side would be where it locked into place on the handle.

By: Burhanistan

Burhanistan — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:16:02 -0800

It also could very well be just a standalone wrench. Cheap tools can corrode very quickly so it might not even be that old.

By: Paleoindian

Paleoindian — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:16:13 -0800

It's a multi wrench just like these

Pretty common from horse drawn carriage days i guess. here's a website.

By: gemmy

gemmy — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:17:47 -0800

Multi-wrench, definitely. (Pic, link)

By: Miko

Miko — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:18:18 -0800

It's a multi wrench just like these

It's not just like those - it's flat and stamped, not molded.

By: cosmicbandito

cosmicbandito — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:18:21 -0800

if you look at the super close up shot, you'll see that several of the indentations are not shaped like a normal wrench opening. They have a weird indented shape that wouldn't work on most nuts. I forgot to mention the probable vintage of this thing. The cabin was probably built around 1870 and occupied until the 1940s.

By: zenon

zenon — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:19:54 -0800

At 1/4 " thick it isn't likely going to be latch & you can see how it is worn on the right side - just like a regular wrench. My guess: it is an old & possibly specialized one of these sorts of things.

By: zenon

zenon — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:21:41 -0800

And even more to add to the pile.

By: Miko

Miko — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:24:27 -0800

At 1/4 " thick it isn't likely going to be latch

Not a reason to discount the latch idea. I work around 18th and 19th century buildings and it's not unusual to find 1/4" stock on door hardware.

I'm not saying it's a latch for sure, just that you can't state "not latch" based on thickness alone.

By: Miko

Miko — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:24:50 -0800

I do think it's a stamped tool though, and thus likely post-1910.

By: Miko

Miko — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:26:48 -0800

several of the indentations are not shaped like a normal wrench opening. They have a weird indented shape that wouldn't work on most nuts

They do all have at least 2 facets that are hex. The remaining facets could be accommodations to the task at hand and protruding hardware on the machine or conveyance - or corrosions.

By: Flunkie

Flunkie — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:29:17 -0800

if you look at the super close up shot, you'll see that several of the indentations are not shaped like a normal wrench opening. They have a weird indented shape that wouldn't work on most nuts.

Those look like slots that can handle two different size nuts apiece.

See, for example, this multi-wrench, with "two-in-one jaw slots". Or this one, which has the same idea but in as internal holes rather than boundary cutouts.

By: Susurration

Susurration — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:30:08 -0800

I think carmicha has it. This looks like an earlier version of the Raleigh bicycle spanner (a.k.a. wrench) that I had as a child.

By: Flunkie

Flunkie — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:31:16 -0800

To be more clear, look at the angle formed by the larger portion of any of the slots that aren't plain hex. That angle sure looks to me like it's part of a regular hexagon.

By: carmicha

carmicha — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:34:43 -0800

For what it's worth vis-a-vis Susurration's link, I had a Raleigh too.

By: jamjam

jamjam — Sat, 02 May 2009 23:09:40 -0800

The older the nut or bolt, the more likely it is to be square rather than hexagonal.

By: oneirodynia

oneirodynia — Sat, 02 May 2009 23:29:56 -0800

Multi-tool, probably for a bike (machine multi-tools tended to be of sturdy, molded material, not stamped), with a slot in the middle to hang it on a nail.

By: cj_

cj_ — Sat, 02 May 2009 23:37:10 -0800

> They have a weird indented shape that wouldn't work on most nuts.

I see the weird bumps that make it seem like it wouldn't work as a wrench, especially in the larger one. How sure are you that this isn't rust buildup (as opposed to part of the original tool)? I can't really tell from the picture.

By: fshgrl

fshgrl — Sun, 03 May 2009 00:13:11 -0800

It's a Raleigh bike spanner. I had tons of them when I was a kid. They are for working on the old style 3-speed bikes.

By: Netzapper

Netzapper — Sun, 03 May 2009 00:19:15 -0800

I vote for wrench. The double-slots each fit a different size; look at the angles, and they clearly form hexagons--especially acounting for wear and corrosion.

By: b33j

b33j — Sun, 03 May 2009 01:00:29 -0800

Here's a bunch of old Australian spanners, none of which exactly match your tool, but you can see the similarities, with hex and square openings.

By: malevolent

malevolent — Sun, 03 May 2009 01:09:37 -0800

The 'weird bumps' are just to cover more sizes; a larger hexagon can be wedged in part of the way with only partial contact, or a smaller one can make a better fit and be held on four sides.

(I'm genuinely surprised that there's so much debate about whether it's a multi-wrench, I'd have thought many/most people would've encountered similar items; as well as bike tools, similar things are sometimes bundled with flat-pack furniture).

By: wfrgms

wfrgms — Sun, 03 May 2009 01:40:18 -0800

It's not a latch. Christ, why would you think that?

it's flat and stamped

It's wrench of the type used in bicycle shops - flat for getting into narrow spaces. Like a cone wrench.

In fact, I have several of these which feature different cut-outs for different sized bolts and nuts.

Wish I had one as cool and versatile as yours. Wouldn't surprise me if the Wright Brothers were wrenching with that thing.

By: mattoxic

mattoxic — Sun, 03 May 2009 01:58:07 -0800

I'm pretty sure it's old bike tool.

By: silentbicycle

silentbicycle — Sun, 03 May 2009 05:27:58 -0800

Nth-ing bike tool. I have a very similar cone wrench.

By: gjc

gjc — Sun, 03 May 2009 06:39:51 -0800

How big is it? Being stamped makes it unlikely it's a wrench... Looks more like a camping tool- can opener, bottle opener, cutter, etc.

By: Sova

Sova — Sun, 03 May 2009 06:53:21 -0800

You wrench is number 131 on this photo.

The legend says:

131. Unmarked flat steel wrench (Coleman)

By: grouse

grouse — Sun, 03 May 2009 07:01:15 -0800

Looks like a Coleman 605-950 wrench for use with a Coleman lantern. You can order another used one for only $8.

By: cosmicbandito

cosmicbandito — Sun, 03 May 2009 07:14:46 -0800

well, it looks like it could be either a bike wrench, or the coleman generator wrench that grouse found. Thanks everybody!

By: ArgentCorvid

ArgentCorvid — Sun, 03 May 2009 07:34:11 -0800

It looks like it is definitely a coleman wrench.

here is a link to a picture that I found on that page with the Colman wrenches.

By: a womble is an active kind of sloth

a womble is an active kind of sloth — Sun, 03 May 2009 08:08:47 -0800

I agree that it looks like a Raleigh bike-wrench. I have one of these that came with a 1980's bike, and it looks almost identical.
(Although in theory they are quite useful, you needed to wrap them in something soft to use, as you could hurt yourself while trying to hold it, and turning.)

By: Paleoindian

Paleoindian — Sun, 03 May 2009 08:09:08 -0800

It's a Coleman Stove Wrench

Here is a page from an OLD coleman catalog showing the exact wrench.

By: Miko

Miko — Sun, 03 May 2009 11:58:24 -0800

It's not a latch. Christ, why would you think that?

Christ, because for ten years I have worked around metasmiths and old house and barn hardware and archaeological sites and have seen many kinds of latches that bear at least some resemblance to this one, especially degraded ones that have been buried a long time, but thanks for the eager slapdown.