How common is the name Ter-Petrossian?
March 14, 2009 4:52 PM
How common is the family name Ter-Petrossian in the Caucasus? Was the former president of Armenia related to one of Stalin's killers?
I'm reading Simon Sebag Montefiore's excellent Young Stalin right now, and one Simon Ter-Petrossian comes up fairly often as one of Stalin's primary henchmen in while Comrade Djugashvili was a gangster in the Caucasus. They apparently grew up together in Gori.
It made me curious about Levon, given the seemingly uncommon family name. Montefiore doesn't mention any connection, and he's fairly meticulous, Levon comes from Syria, and I can't find any suggestion of a connection online. So is it just coincidence?
I'm reading Simon Sebag Montefiore's excellent Young Stalin right now, and one Simon Ter-Petrossian comes up fairly often as one of Stalin's primary henchmen in while Comrade Djugashvili was a gangster in the Caucasus. They apparently grew up together in Gori.
It made me curious about Levon, given the seemingly uncommon family name. Montefiore doesn't mention any connection, and he's fairly meticulous, Levon comes from Syria, and I can't find any suggestion of a connection online. So is it just coincidence?
Typical Armenian last names (family names) end with the suffix -ian, -yan, or sometimes -jan. Example: Petrosian. That ending comes from the old Armenian word meaning "son". So the last name "Petrosian" means "son of Petros", the Armenian form of the name Peterson....
The prefix "Der"/"Ter" (meaning "lord") is typically Armenian. It might be followed by a space or attached directly to the root. If someone possesses a surname containing "Der" or "Ter" it usually signifies that this person has a priest in the family. -- Armenian surnames, wikipedia
So the name is really the common Petrossian, and both families may have had priests (probably itself common).
posted by dhartung at 5:22 PM on March 14, 2009
The prefix "Der"/"Ter" (meaning "lord") is typically Armenian. It might be followed by a space or attached directly to the root. If someone possesses a surname containing "Der" or "Ter" it usually signifies that this person has a priest in the family. -- Armenian surnames, wikipedia
So the name is really the common Petrossian, and both families may have had priests (probably itself common).
posted by dhartung at 5:22 PM on March 14, 2009
Aha -- yeah, the priest bit makes a lot of sense. Thanks!
posted by wandering steve at 6:31 PM on March 14, 2009
posted by wandering steve at 6:31 PM on March 14, 2009
Fun fact - the city of Kavar/Gavar in Armenia, known for its redheads and drunks, was named for Simon Ter-Petrossian (Petrosyan is the usual spelling, BTW), AKA Kamo. His nickname was Kamo because of his thick Caucasian accent pronouncing the word "komu" in Russian (to whom).
posted by k8t at 8:27 PM on March 14, 2009
posted by k8t at 8:27 PM on March 14, 2009
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I eagerly await a more informed opinion.
posted by box at 5:16 PM on March 14, 2009