The Seductive Next
March 1, 2009 4:36 PM Subscribe
So lets say that Coldplay's Viva La Vida verses have a "pull" to them. Lets say that this song's stock-in-trade is the gravitional pull the verses exert toward... whatever comes next.
This song isn't alone in this regard.
Contribute to this thread song titles that you experience as simililar. As similarly pulling toward... whatever come next.
This post was deleted for the following reason: This really needs a whole bunch of tightening up into a concrete and comprehensible description of what you're looking for to work; as is, it's hopelessly vague and chatfiltery. -- cortex
You're doing the pulling, he just writes an obvious chord sequence/melody which your own mind fills in before the song gets there. Thus you feel like you are pulled there.
posted by Ironmouth at 4:52 PM on March 1, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by Ironmouth at 4:52 PM on March 1, 2009 [1 favorite]
are you looking for songs that are conducive to romance?
posted by jenkinsEar at 4:53 PM on March 1, 2009
posted by jenkinsEar at 4:53 PM on March 1, 2009
Death Cab for Cutie "Marching Bands of Manhattan", and "When Soul Meets Body".
Levon Helm "The Mountain", "A Train Robbery"
posted by Science! at 4:53 PM on March 1, 2009
Levon Helm "The Mountain", "A Train Robbery"
posted by Science! at 4:53 PM on March 1, 2009
patr1ck: "... I listen to a lot of music (a lot) and I have no idea what you are asking for."
I think he means songs that, by virtue of their rhythms and structure, make you hang on every verse in expectation of the next one. A sort of musical momentum that keeps you listening.
But this is pretty much chatfilter, so it doesn't make much of a difference.
posted by Rhaomi at 5:03 PM on March 1, 2009
I think he means songs that, by virtue of their rhythms and structure, make you hang on every verse in expectation of the next one. A sort of musical momentum that keeps you listening.
But this is pretty much chatfilter, so it doesn't make much of a difference.
posted by Rhaomi at 5:03 PM on March 1, 2009
Response by poster: The verses feel like an extended intro. The choruses feel like down payments on a payoff never completely paid.
There's a rolling, circular, unending feel to this song.
Like romance, promises are fulfilled by more promises.
What songs in your library are similarly never-ending and deliciously unsatisfying?
posted by Moistener at 5:03 PM on March 1, 2009
There's a rolling, circular, unending feel to this song.
Like romance, promises are fulfilled by more promises.
What songs in your library are similarly never-ending and deliciously unsatisfying?
posted by Moistener at 5:03 PM on March 1, 2009
I think I know what you're talking about... maybe. I'd describe it more as a swelling momentum; a feeling that the song is building upon itself towards some climax.
For my money, the song that does this best is "Good Morning, Captain", the highlight of Slint's masterpiece Spiderland.
posted by martens at 5:04 PM on March 1, 2009
For my money, the song that does this best is "Good Morning, Captain", the highlight of Slint's masterpiece Spiderland.
posted by martens at 5:04 PM on March 1, 2009
It sounds like OP is talking about the use of slight (or a lot of) dissonance to pull the listener to a musical resolution. The most common in many forms of music is the 5th chord in the key pulling to the 1st (like, G7 to C) although there are many others, and there are many non-chord examples of resolution - non-chord tones tend to pull towards the chord tones, particularly the root and maybe the 7th? That is, when someone plays a G chord, and you play a E over it, you expect the next note to be an F, G or D. This is really whether you know musical theory or not, you're just used to the way tones resolve in music. There are a lot of interesting cases of false resolutions that you come across if you study music, like I tend to mistake the flat 5th (which resolves to the 5th) for a 7th sometimes (which resolves upwards to the root)
posted by RustyBrooks at 5:06 PM on March 1, 2009
posted by RustyBrooks at 5:06 PM on March 1, 2009
OK after reading OPs followup I'm going to go ahead and admit I have no idea wtf he's talking about.
posted by RustyBrooks at 5:07 PM on March 1, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by RustyBrooks at 5:07 PM on March 1, 2009 [1 favorite]
That's a very odd metaphor. Something with its own gravity wouldn't pull towards the next thing at all, more the reverse.
Anyway, I think what you're asking for are examples of music that is written in such a way as to lead the next part, that is, the musical constructions in a given section suggest to some degree or another the construct of the following section.
This happens because, culturally, we have certain expectations about how we generally want music progressions to go, and a good songwriter will write lyrics or music or both that play into those expectations in an engaging way.
posted by Aquaman at 5:08 PM on March 1, 2009
Anyway, I think what you're asking for are examples of music that is written in such a way as to lead the next part, that is, the musical constructions in a given section suggest to some degree or another the construct of the following section.
This happens because, culturally, we have certain expectations about how we generally want music progressions to go, and a good songwriter will write lyrics or music or both that play into those expectations in an engaging way.
posted by Aquaman at 5:08 PM on March 1, 2009
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posted by patr1ck at 4:42 PM on March 1, 2009