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October 28, 2004 8:09 AM Subscribe
HistoryFilter: Odd reference to McCarthy in Kerry's 1971 Senate Testimony. He said: "I realize that we cannot negotiate treaties and I realize that even my visits in Paris, precedents had been set by Senator McCarthy and others, in a sense are on the borderline of private individuals negotiating, et cetera. What was the incident involving McCarthy that set a precedent?
The Green's an inappropriate place for politics, so I'm trying to avoid that. I'm just asking for a neutral clue about that single reference.
Google done let me down.
The Green's an inappropriate place for politics, so I'm trying to avoid that. I'm just asking for a neutral clue about that single reference.
Google done let me down.
"the voice of the movement for a negotiated settlement to the war."
...That was rejected at the Democratic Convention in 1968 by a wide margin of attending delegates, disappointing many and setting off the unpleasantness in Chicago.
posted by loquax at 8:30 AM on October 28, 2004
...That was rejected at the Democratic Convention in 1968 by a wide margin of attending delegates, disappointing many and setting off the unpleasantness in Chicago.
posted by loquax at 8:30 AM on October 28, 2004
Response by poster: I'm still confused. The quote very much sounds like McCarthy engaging in quasi-inappropriate "private negotiating" on behalf of the government -- and it sounds like Kerry was using this to justify his Paris meetings with Vietnamese representatives. Given the context, I don't see the tie-in with the convention.
I'm willing to entertain the notion that I'm merely dense -- but I'm hoping the confusion I have is from Kerry's multi-paranthetical speaking style.
posted by RavinDave at 8:37 AM on October 28, 2004
I'm willing to entertain the notion that I'm merely dense -- but I'm hoping the confusion I have is from Kerry's multi-paranthetical speaking style.
posted by RavinDave at 8:37 AM on October 28, 2004
Well, it has nothing to do with the convention. That's just background. He ran for the nomination on a platform of a negotiated settlement in Vietnam. AKA, he was negotiating with a foreign country on behalf of his future government, while he was still a private citizen.
posted by smackfu at 9:06 AM on October 28, 2004
posted by smackfu at 9:06 AM on October 28, 2004
Right. Eugene McCarthy = decent fellow. Joe McCarthy = scumbag.
posted by Mo Nickels at 9:16 AM on October 28, 2004
posted by Mo Nickels at 9:16 AM on October 28, 2004
Response by poster: So, McCarthy actually approached them? Fascinating. I never knew that. Thanx all!
posted by RavinDave at 12:04 PM on October 28, 2004
posted by RavinDave at 12:04 PM on October 28, 2004
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posted by smackfu at 8:23 AM on October 28, 2004