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	<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:38:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Photoshop Training in DC - Last Minute Gift</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift</link>	
		<description>Bail me out.  I need to find the best place for my wife to get additional training on Adobe Photoshop in Washington DC.  This is her (nail bitting) only Christmas present and I haven&apos;t found the perfect place yet.  She&apos;s a budding photographer and has most of the professional equipment she needs (Nikon D300, New Desktop w/ CS4, etc).  I would classify her as currently at the top end of the intermediate skill range.  I&apos;d prefer night time classes, but can arrange for day care if it is an excellent class.  Anything below $2,000 works.  Bonus points for anything that leads to any Adobe certifications.  Thanks!  Any other suggestions would be great as well (she&apos;s learning Fireworks and InDesign right now too).</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:32:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anonnymoose</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583008</link>	
		<description>Just as a supplement for self-directed learning, I would encourage her to check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lynda.com&quot;&gt;lynda.com&lt;/a&gt;, a fantastic online training site. They offer extensive Adobe tutorials. Good luck with the instructional side of things! What a great gift.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:38:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Taken Outtacontext</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583011</link>	
		<description>Try &lt;a href=&quot;http://training.figleaf.com/Courses/Photoshop.cfm&quot;&gt;Figleaf&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:42:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Taken Outtacontext</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: JoanArkham</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583013</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m also a fan of Figleaf.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:45:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grumblebee</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583016</link>	
		<description>I used to work for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fmctraining.com/fmc.asp?l=Washington+DC&quot;&gt;Future Media Concepts&lt;/a&gt;. Their training tends to be pretty good.&lt;br&gt;
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I highly recommend videos from &lt;a href=&quot;http://totaltraining.com/prod/adobe/photoshop.asp&quot;&gt;Total Training&lt;/a&gt;. Lynda.com is good, but Total Training is the gold standard. &lt;br&gt;
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If someone was offering me $2000 of Photoshop training, I&apos;d want the Total Training videos, a subscription to Lynda and maybe &lt;a href=&quot;http://vtc.com/&quot;&gt;VTC&lt;/a&gt; (they have a few good titles) -- and a subscription to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.photoshopuser.com/&quot;&gt;Photoshop User Magazine&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.layersmagazine.com/&quot;&gt;Layers Magazine&lt;/a&gt; (disclaimer: I write for the latter).&lt;br&gt;
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In the case of Photoshop, I generally think the video training (from Lynda, VTC and Total Training) is better than most live courses.&lt;br&gt;
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Also, why does she want to be certified? In my opinion (as an ACE), the Adobe Certification program is a racket. It drains your wallet and gives you little in return. I&apos;ve rarely heard of an employer or client who cares about it. (Instead, they want to see your portfolio) The exception is if she wants to become an Adobe Certified Trainer. Then she has to get certified. It&apos;s the only reason I did. Now that I&apos;m no longer training full time, I don&apos;t bother.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:50:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hands of Manos</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583052</link>	
		<description>I know this isn&apos;t &quot;official&quot; but I&apos;ve learned a *lot* from photoshop you tube videos.  Also, another thing that helped me was interning with a photoshop specialist (if that&apos;s in your area).  That helped me a lot as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:41:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: krautland</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583092</link>	
		<description>lynda.com might also work. the classes are sweet and there are coupons on retailmenot.com</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:58:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: waylaid</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583100</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s a free Indesign user group (Google it and you should be able to find...)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:18:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arco</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583106</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://grad.usda.gov/course_details.php?cid=COMP7002E&quot;&gt;USDA Graduate School&lt;/a&gt; offers different levels of Photoshop classes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:36:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arco</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583107</link>	
		<description>Of course I screw up the link and send you to their InDesign class, but you get the point.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:37:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arco</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583111</link>	
		<description>Montgomery College in Silver Spring is offering an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.montgomerycollege.edu/iti/coned/course_descriptions/digital_Imaging/photoshop_02.htm&quot;&gt;advanced Photoshop &lt;/a&gt;class in the spring, although this class might be offered in Gaithersburg.  Click on the name of the course in &lt;a href=&quot;http://mc.symplicitynetworks.com/course/courselistings.aspx&quot;&gt;this list&lt;/a&gt; for details.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:44:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hoppytoad</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583157</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.corcoran.edu/continuing/index.asp&quot;&gt;Corcoran College of Art + Design&lt;/a&gt; offers evening courses that can be applied toward a certificate.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.westlaketraining.com/training/adobe-training.html&quot;&gt;Westlake&lt;/a&gt; has daytime training courses that usually run 5 days.&lt;br&gt;
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She may also want to consider joining the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dcwebwomen.org/become-a-member/&quot;&gt;DC Web Women&lt;/a&gt; mailing list which is a great resource for people working in digital media (it&apos;s where I learned about the above places).</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:20:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gudrun</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583187</link>	
		<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://residentassociates.org/ticketing/index.aspx&quot;&gt;Smithsonian Associates&lt;/a&gt; offers various classes, on &lt;a href=&quot;http://residentassociates.org/ticketing/tickets/search.aspx?keyword=Photography&quot;&gt;photography&lt;/a&gt; , and &lt;a href=&quot;http://residentassociates.org/ticketing/tickets/search.aspx?keyword=Digital%20Media&quot;&gt;digital media &lt;/a&gt;.  The digital media link includes various photoshop classes for various skill levels.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:02:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sully75</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583235</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d just point out that if she&apos;s focusing on photography, a lot of photoshop stuff is going to be not that helpful.   The skill set for photographers using photoshop is a very very small portion of what photoshop is capable of.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:24:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: infinitewindow</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583342</link>	
		<description>Seconding Future Media Concepts. I also share grumblebee&apos;s beef with Adobe certification.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:11:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: n&#xed;mwunnan</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583359</link>	
		<description>What kind of photography does she want to/ plan on doing? High-end commercial photo and retouching? Or something else? I can&apos;t think of anything else that would demand this specific kind of investment at the point you say she&apos;s at in her career. I know a few excellent, exhibiting photographers who barely ever use Photoshop because most of what they do involves looking and thinking before it requires tool-using.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:02:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eatcake</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1583419</link>	
		<description>I would second (and third) &lt;strong&gt;sully75&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;nimwunnan&lt;/strong&gt; in that she should focus (hehe ....get it?) on the photography end of things instead of retouching. It&apos;s kind of a slippery slope when you learn photoshop. You&apos;ll always want to do or learn one more skill and before you know it it&apos;s occupying all your time.&lt;br&gt;
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Contrary to popular belief shooting and retouching don&apos;t necessarily have to go hand in hand. If she loves shooting she should concentrate on getting shooting jobs and hire a retoucher.&lt;br&gt;
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I learned retouching professionally on the job so I don&apos;t have a training program to recommend other than use the application all day, everyday and a year or so from now she&apos;ll be able to retouch an image in her sleep.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:56:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sully75</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109965/Photoshop-Training-in-DC-Last-Minute-Gift#1589658</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m (I&apos;d say) REALLY good at photoshop (but only for photography) and basically use it just as a darkroom.  I could literally explain all the techniques I use in about 24 minutes.  I&apos;d be talking fast, but that would be it.  It&apos;s like 1/10 of 1% of photoshop.&lt;br&gt;
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And yeah, I suppose, once you learn how to put a magical unicorn layer on something, you&apos;ll want to do it on everything.  And then, you&apos;ll be a hack.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:33:44 -0800</pubDate>
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