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	<title>Comments on: Verizon PDA/Cell with no dataplan?</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:03:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Verizon PDA/Cell with no dataplan?</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109370/Verizon-PDACell-with-no-dataplan</link>	
		<description>Are there any good GTD and/or organizational solutions using a Verizon phone and not subscribe to a data plan?  What phone can i get that has calendar/ todo lists syncing capbablites that doesn&apos;t &lt;strong&gt;require&lt;/strong&gt; a data plan? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Is it too much to ask for a PDA/Cellphone with wifi, that does not need an email/internet package?&lt;br&gt;
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I am not a cell phone power user, and actually my wife and I can get by with a minimal amount of minutes on a share plan.  I also subscribe (sorta) to the GTD philosophy and have been thinking for sometime to incorporate a PDA into my organization system (calendar, todo lists etc.)  &lt;br&gt;
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As i am coming due for a phone upgrade, i unfortunately found out that verizon requires a data plan (extra ~$30/mo) to use most all of their pda/smartphones/blackberrys according to verizon and these two links.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/13/additional-details-about-verizons-mandatory-data-plans-emerge/&quot;&gt;Mandatory Data Plan &lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://cellphoneforums.net/verizon/t278563-pda-phone-blackberry-no-data-plan.html&quot;&gt;no data plan&lt;/a&gt;.  The Palm Centro seems like the best candidate, but i played with the phone at the store, and wasn&apos;t sold on it, and/or its syncing capabilities.  An added bonus would be wifi capabilities.  But of upmost importance, is some syncing capabilities, preferably with outlook. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:05:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>retro88</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: nmabry</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109370/Verizon-PDACell-with-no-dataplan#1574880</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m a Verizon user, and afaik, only the Blackberrys require a data plan.  I know that I&apos;ve had a Motorola Q not on a data plan.  The Q will sync with Outlook and others.&lt;br&gt;
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I would suggest trying eBay and getting something independently.  You can then use VZW&apos;s web-interface to change your ESN.  If you do it over the phone or at a store/kiosk, they may force you into a data plan by implying (or actually saying) it is required. Of course, getting it through a non-VZW source means you may pay more.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:03:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: retro88</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109370/Verizon-PDACell-with-no-dataplan#1574905</link>	
		<description>Thanks, i may have to go this route.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:20:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ijoyner</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109370/Verizon-PDACell-with-no-dataplan#1574919</link>	
		<description>You could try the iPod Touch/app store route.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:27:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zpousman</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109370/Verizon-PDACell-with-no-dataplan#1575217</link>	
		<description>iPod Touch is working fine for me. Screw you verizon!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:43:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: retro88</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109370/Verizon-PDACell-with-no-dataplan#1577027</link>	
		<description>I like the iPod touch idea, anyone have good luck using the touch as a PDA?  Any recommended apps that work well for GTD (getting things done) or general organizational/ syncing functions.&lt;br&gt;
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I unfortunately will keep my Verizon plan for now, get a free upgrade phone and use a secondary device like the iPod touch as a catch all pda for everything else.  It is not ideal to have two devices, but seems to be a good middle ground for my situation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:54:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>retro88</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: retro88</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/109370/Verizon-PDACell-with-no-dataplan#1577046</link>	
		<description>A older post on using an &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/103275/iPod-Touch-as-a-PDA#comment&quot;&gt;iPod touch as a PDA...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:07:24 -0800</pubDate>
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