Comments on: FLAC --> ALAC?

Question: FLAC --> ALAC?

cosmic osmo — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:07:26 -0800

What's the best way to convert FLAC to ALAC (Apple lossless)?

I would like to convert my FLAC files to the Apple lossless format (ALAC) so I can listen to them in iTunes and on my iPhone.

I already know about Fluke for listening to FLAC files in iTunes, but as far as I know there is no way to play FLACs on the iPhone.

Hence, I want to convert FLAC to ALAC. What's the best software to do this? Am I going to get any loss of data even though they're both lossless formats?

(Alternately, if there's a way to play FLACs on the iPhone, I'd love to hear it.)

By: holgate

holgate — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:29:31 -0800

The two-step way is FLAC to WAV/AIFF to Apple Lossless, but there are apps that simplify the process. XLD does it for the Mac; dbPoweramp or foobar2000 should do it for the PC, with the right codecs installed.

By: starzero

starzero — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:36:13 -0800

Max should work for lossless conversion, I'm assuming you're on OS X.

By: strangecargo

strangecargo — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:41:29 -0800

A bash command line to convert every .flac file in the current directory to ALAC encoded .m4a files using ffmpeg:

for i in *.flac; do ffmpeg -i "$i" -acodec alac "`basename "$i" .flac`.m4a"; done;

My copy of ffmpeg spews out a lot of text when it does this, but the resulting files play fine. Should work in OS X/Linux or anything else you unixory that has bash and you can install ffmpeg on.

By: pompomtom

pompomtom — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:42:22 -0800

This thread may be helpful. The last post seems to show a way to do this which would preserve any tags you have... which going via AIFF will not.

(however, I really don't know, as I just found this looking for something else entirely, and don't actually use FLAC for anything, or dbPowerAmp, for that matter...)

By: cosmic osmo

cosmic osmo — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:46:27 -0800

Oops, yes I am on OS X (10.5)

By: Inspector.Gadget

Inspector.Gadget — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:26:25 -0800

Seconding ffmpeg. Better compression than the native ALAC encoder as well.

By: chairface

chairface — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:48:50 -0800

No one answered your second question: No, you won't get any audio loss. You might lose metadata (album/track/lyrics/whatnot) but the audio streams should be completely intact. That's what lossless means. You can verify this if you are paranoid by dumping the final apple format back into a WAV/AIFF and comparing with the intermediate WAV/AIFF from the FLAC file.

By: archagon

archagon — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:56:56 -0800

I'd use foobar2000.

By: tomierna

tomierna — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:01:55 -0800

XLD works pretty darn well, and keeps metadata most of the time. I haven't quite figured out what makes metadata choke on some FLAC files, but for the majority, it's just drag and drop.

By: cosmic osmo

cosmic osmo — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:12:37 -0800

XLD is it. Thanks all.

By: floam

floam — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:42:55 -0800

Max is nicer to use, more reliable, and quicker. I use it for using my FLAC stuff with iTunes and my iPod.

By: Jay Levitt

Jay Levitt — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:29:28 -0800

I recently switched from Windows to Mac, and last week I finally converted my music library from FLAC to ALAC, for the same reasons as you.

XLD seems nice, but there's no way to convert a whole drive of music at once; you have to open each .flac individually. (You can actually open multiple files - by drag-and-drop or by the usual Command-key multi-select method - but they all have to be audio files; it won't accept folders.)

I used Max, and it seems to have worked well. The conversion interface is a bit clunky, though. First, you need to go to Preferences/Formats, and add the ALAC format (called "MPEG-4 Audio (Apple Lossless)"). Make sure that this is checked, and that other formats are unchecked, because Max will convert to any format that's checked here.

Next, go to Preferences/Output, and set your output directory.

Now go to Preferences/iTunes, and check "Use iTunes compatibility mode". You can also have Max add the output directly to the iTunes library; I decided not to do that, and instead I imported files into iTunes later. I forget why I did that.

Finally, you can now click the "+" button, add your FLAC folder to the list, and click the "Convert" icon on the toolbar to convert all your files.

I haven't noticed any missing data in iTunes, with the following exceptions:

My ratings and play counts from MediaMonkey were lost

ReplayGain won't get copied over; iTunes doesn't support ReplayGain, but it has its own equivalent, called SoundCheck. You can scan your library automatically to compute that; I forget what triggers it. (Maybe just enabling SoundCheck in iTunes Preferences.)

Album covers that are stored as "folder.jpg" won't be copied. I think album covers that are in FLAC tags (a fairly recent FLAC feature) might be copied. There's a program called Corripio that I've heard will go re-fetch all your album artwork, lyrics, fix up tags, etc. but I haven't tried it yet.

And, as chairface said, lossless is lossless; all the original audio is preserved in full fidelity.