Comments on: Is the world watching the US elections?

Question: Is the world watching the US elections?

nikkorizz — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:33:07 -0800

Is the world watching the United States 2008 presidential elections? Who are they routing for?

I've heard that, for example, people in Kenya are paying close attention to the elections simply because of Obama's ancestral heritage, but I'm wondering if other countries are interested in the US elections for something other than curiosity, candidate heritage, or just wanting to see George W. Bush out of office.

I'd like to know of some examples of non-Americans living outside the U.S. routing for one presidential candidate over the other.

Personal stories are great, but links to articles are preferred.

By: nitsuj

nitsuj — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:40:37 -0800

www.iftheworldcouldvote.com

By: Knappster

Knappster — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:43:13 -0800

Also: If the World Could Vote

By: domi_p

domi_p — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:44:21 -0800

Canada.
Really hoping for Obama.
Election is on the news everywhere

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111253/World-Citizens-Prefer-Obama-McCain-More-Than-3to1.aspx

By: bl1nk

bl1nk — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:47:56 -0800

nikkorizz -- all I have are personal stories, but to corroborate your hearsay about Kenya ... I was just south of that country's border, in Tanzania about a month and a half ago, and it was common to see Obama murals painted on the sides of minibuses and lorries driving through the streets there. McCain or Sarah Palin iconography was rather absent.

When encountered an African-American fellow on our journey and he was telling us about how when he was in Kenya, everyone there was asking him about what he knew about Barack Obama and whether the guy was going to vote for him.

I think that while the 2008 has a momentous sense of Moment In History, in my experience, the world-at-large has always paid attention to your elections. My childhood in the Philippines featured discussions and arguments of Reagan v. Carter at the dinner table. When I visited England shortly after the 2000 elections, while the recounts in Florida were in full swing, we'd encounter folks who interrogated our American travelling companions with questions like "Why are old people so important in your election process?"

By: nikkorizz

nikkorizz — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:48:29 -0800

Re: www.iftheworldcouldvote.com

Wow. So quick. It even comes with blogs. Thanks!

By: nikkorizz

nikkorizz — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:52:45 -0800

bl1nk, don't worry about personal stories, I just wanted to avoid a lot of mistaken interpretation that biased voters(and non-voters) may add to a story. Now that I think of it, official news sources can do the same. Feel free to share your stories.

By: paisley henosis

paisley henosis — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:55:36 -0800

1) Yes.
2) Obama.

By: nikkorizz

nikkorizz — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:58:19 -0800

paisley henosis, what countries are routing for Obama? Do you have sources(personal or not)?

By: mr_roboto

mr_roboto — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:01:58 -0800

In Georgia and Macedonia, they love McCain.

By: RustyBrooks

RustyBrooks — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:02:37 -0800

Ooooooh I hate to nitpick but it's "rooting". Just FYI.

By: nikkorizz

nikkorizz — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:13:43 -0800

RustyBrooks, I'll remember that. :)

By: Chairboy

Chairboy — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:17:52 -0800

In Scotland I know quite a few people are staying up to watch, and I think most of them are probably rooting for Obama.

By: doublesix

doublesix — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:25:22 -0800

I'm from Canada and I'm hoping for an Obama rout.
heh

By: CrazyLemonade

CrazyLemonade — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:26:26 -0800

I'm in Mexico. I'd like to see Obama win.

By: thisisnotbruce

thisisnotbruce — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:27:30 -0800

In Canada, US politics get virtually more play than Canadian politics.

Even though we just had our Federal election less than a month ago, most of my friends (20-something urbanites) and coworkers (40yo - 60yo gov't employees) were better versed, and more enthusiastically opinionated, on the American Presidential race than our own election.

Support for Obama is pretty one-sided here.

Here's a short research article on how Canadians would vote, complete with data tables: Even Tories Love Obama
*note: "Tories" is slang for members of Canada's Conservative party.

Also, as far as how the rest of the world views it, this satirical map is fun.

By: i_cola

i_cola — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:30:06 -0800

In Brighton, UK here and I'm staying up to watch the fun despite an electrician arriving at 9.30 tomorrow morning to fit a new fuse box.

IMing with friends across the US from NY to HI. They want Obama, I want Obama.

Most people in the UK, if they express a preference, seem to want Obama because he is nothing to do with Bush who everybody has hated/taken the piss out of for the past 8 years. Obama seems like a class act.

By: flabdablet

flabdablet — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:31:50 -0800

Australia.
Obama by about two to one.

By: beckish

beckish — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:36:17 -0800

3 weeks ago in Turkey: Businessmen want McCain, everyone else in Turkey thinks Bush is an idiot and wants Obama to win.

By: martinrebas

martinrebas — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:43:36 -0800

Lots of my friends in Sweden are staying awake until early morning to follow the voting. They all root for Obama. According to a poll, 71% of Swedes favor Obama, while 5% favor McCain. The rest are unsure.

By: krautland

krautland — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:58:18 -0800

this question is a joke, right? I don't think there was a single person in any of the countries I have been to in the last two years* who didn't ask me about obama. they're over this like flies over a fruitcake.

*that would be U.S., U.K., Ireland, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, U.A.E., Singapore, Tunisia and Liechtenstein.

By: finding.perdita

finding.perdita — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:14:25 -0800

If

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29523

had happened, then

http://www.economist.com/vote2008/index.cfm?source=most_commented

By: mustcatchmooseandsquirrel

mustcatchmooseandsquirrel — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:20:14 -0800

This is hearsay but, everyone that I've talked to in Lyon, France is firmly pro-Obama (and anti-Sarkozy).

I'm here teaching English to secondary school students. Before I officially started teaching I had an introduction session with each class. One person in every class asked me who I supported in the election and, when I said Obama, all of them nodded in agreement.

Also, when I was renting an apartment I sat down to have coffee with my future landlords and the first thing they asked me was, "So, McCain or Obama?" (I like to think that they agreed to rent me the apartment because I answered correctly).

By: CKmtl

CKmtl — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:29:03 -0800

what countries are routing for Obama?

This phrasing is sort of ironic, given that this is an election question and it's ultimately about personal choice.

I'm sure that there are people across Canada who would rather see McCain win, be it because they're fundamentalists who have a contact high off of all the Palinmania, racists who think the world will be torn asunder if a half-black man becomes "leader of the free world", or tar sand workers who are concerned that Obama's environmental policy will hurt them.

By: ersatz

ersatz — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:34:43 -0800

Taking into account their worldwide impact, it's no wonder that many countries are following your elections. Are we interested? You betcha!

Anyway, there have been news updates on the elections at least since the primaries began and the last week we saw a bombardment of articles. Not all of the coverage has been stellar, mind you, but it has been constant. For instance, there's been far more coverage about the battles in FLA and OH rather than the most promising combinations of IA, NM, NH, VA. Here's the latest editorial of the English version of the major conservative Greek paper. Anyone interested could also have followed the elections online from the same sources Americans did.

I've seen a few articles praising McCain's character, but these virtually stopped when he chose Palin for VP. The general sentiment is definitely pro-Obama. It will be a point of conversation together with the mid-week Champions League/UEFA soccer results. Personally, I'll miss checking the polling sites.

By: micklaw

micklaw — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:59:01 -0800

Australia

Obama, please......please!

By: ceri richard

ceri richard — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:10:53 -0800

1) On a dark, cold, wet Welsh hillside...
2) ~~Routing for~~ Praying that Obama wins!

By: narrativium

narrativium — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:45:55 -0800

New Zealand - most people I know are in favour of Obama, and I've seen some polls (although none conducted with any real rigor) that indicate about 90% of New Zealanders that have an opinion on the US election are supporting Obama.

By: andraste

andraste — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:05:35 -0800

Australia. Virtually everyone I know has fingers crossed for an Obama win.

Our local paper had a two-page spread on the US election this morning and has had plenty of other coverage (and here's their online poll results: 93% Obama, although the Age is admittedly left-biased). There's been loads of coverage, more than I remember for other overseas elections; even the entertainment channels on cable have been running little snippets explaining things like the electoral college system which are different to the way we do it.

By: fiery.hogue

fiery.hogue — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:53:16 -0800

I was in Germany and France for a two-week work trip and just got back 8 days ago. Every single person I spoke to in Berlin, Frankfurt, and Paris fervently hoped for an Obama win. Even this morning I got an e-mail from a woman I met in Paris who wrote, "Our fingers are crossed for you! Go Obama!"

By: web-goddess

web-goddess — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:02:46 -0800

Australia. Everyone in my office today was watching the election results closely. We even turned the giant wall monitor - the one that monitors mission-critical parts of our network - to one of the news stations. When it became obvious Obama was winning, I had people Skyping me congratulations and coming up to my desk to give me high-fives. I just checked my phone and had half a dozen SMSes from Sydney friends sharing the love. It's hilarious to be congratulated for it, like I personally made the difference... but hey, given how close Indiana is this year, maybe my little absentee ballot did!

I haven't met a single person here that wanted McCain to win. Not a single one.

By: Dee Xtrovert

Dee Xtrovert — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:42:56 -0800

In Romania, everyone I've met is pro-Obama. And happy, now that he's won.

By: almostwitty

almostwitty — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:04:32 -0800

As the BBC news trails promoting their election coverage says: "We can't have a vote... but we will feel the consequences."

I can't think of any other election that gets such worldwide attention.

By: allkindsoftime

allkindsoftime — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:04:34 -0800

I worked in Kenya this past year.

Also, South Africa, Mozambique, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Tanzania, Ghana, Uganda, and Mauritius. (There might be one or two I'm forgetting.)

I can personally guarantee you that the vast majority of people in all of those countries are celebrating Obama's victory.

Personally I saw this election as one of voting for a candidate that was best for the country and its interests or voting for a candidate that was best for the world. Frankly I'm surprised America got over itself for 10 seconds.

By: dhartung

dhartung — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:45:51 -0800

A plurality of Israelis supported McCain. But Obama won over American Jews in a landslide.

By: allkindsoftime

allkindsoftime — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:58:15 -0800

(also, remember, you're asking this question on the internet. the "if the world could vote" website should really be more "if the world with the internet could vote." point is you're getting skewed answers.)

By: paisley henosis

paisley henosis — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:32:55 -0800

~ paisley henosis, what countries are routing for Obama? Do you have sources(personal or not)?

Sorry about that, I completely neglected to check for follow-up in this thread. All apologies.

Within the last 6 months, I visited Dubai and India, and as far as I can remember, every single person I talked to about it was pro-Obama. The financial pages in India were pro-McCain, but that was more about him being friendly on outsourcing, and Obama wanting to bring jobs back to the States. I wasn't exactly conducting market research for the candidates, but it did come up fairly often, and I can't think of anyone ever voicing their support for McCain, though a few people did seem to think I might favor him, and politely stayed neutral on the topic.

Also, we have some fairly close family friends who are from Germany, and they tell my mom regularly about people in Germany supporting Obama, and how could anyone support McCain, and those types of things.

Plural of observation isn't data, but that is what I noticed over the past 6 months or so, first hand.

You might also find this interesting: The World Reacts to Obama's Victory.

By: ersatz

ersatz — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:54:06 -0800

Obama is two days straight in the first page of the most popular newspapers of Greece.

By: mdn

mdn — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:02:55 -0800

my British half brother came over with his Czech wife just to witness history this past weekend. He works in a fairly conservative industry (the energy industry) and spends half his time in Moscow. His impression was that all of europe, east & west, wanted Obama to win, and he teased me for not being able to start celebrating until numbers started coming in (he arrived fri/sat & had bought the ticket in order to pop champagne. or drink obama-tinis).

Also saw leftist french philos Alain Badiou give a talk about how elections don't matter but symbolically he wanted Obama to win anyway, and this was the one thing all of france, whatever political stripe, agreed on.

By the economist's numbers, the Congo, Algeria, Iraq and Cuba lean McCain. Everyone other country (excepting a few without enough registered readers to be counted - I think they needed a minimum 10 registered voters) likes Obama.

Of course, that is slanted to those online and reading the economist. That it's a somewhat conservative magazine should make up for some of the expected bias, but the vote count for america is 20-80, nowhere near the actual vote count. But people in the US have little incentive to register to show McCain support on an online poll, whereas people in other countries may feel they have more incentive to do so... hard to know.

By: paisley henosis

paisley henosis — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:48:38 -0800

Stephen Colbert did a bit about the world reacting to the Obama election. Link here.