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	<title>Comments on: Is penny-wise pound-foolish with replacement filters?</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:20:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Is penny-wise pound-foolish with replacement filters?</title>
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		<description>With some products, the off-brand is as good as any other brand, sometimes even coming off the same production lines in the same factories. With other products, there is a quality difference between brands. How about for replacement HEPA filters for a Kenmore air cleaner? (And, as a bonus, should I believe the warning against washing and reusing the charcoal pre-filters?) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; My Kenmore air filter has charcoal prefilters to replace every three months, and a HEPA filter to replace yearly. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_03283376000P?mv=cf&amp;vName=Appliances&amp;cName=Air+Purifiers+%26+Dehumidifiers&quot;&gt;Kenmore replacement HEPA filter&lt;/a&gt; is $110, while &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000QSMZOA/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;this aftermarket one&lt;/a&gt;, for example, is $68 including shipping. Both claim to capture 99.97% of particles down to .3 microns. I picked my air filter carefully based on reading about tested differences in performance, so I don&apos;t want to cheap out now if there&apos;s a quality difference, but I don&apos;t want to pay extra if there&apos;s not.&lt;br&gt;
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For the bonus question, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_03283378000P?mv=rr&quot;&gt;the charcoal&lt;/a&gt; pre-filters come with the warning, &quot;DO NOT try to wash and reuse either the HEPA filter or the pre-filter,&quot; but when I take out the pre-filters, they sure look like a good hosing off and a thorough drying in the sun might make them perfectly serviceable again. Would performance be degraded?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:15:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>daisyace</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: madmethods</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/105633/Is-pennywise-poundfoolish-with-replacement-filters#1525261</link>	
		<description>Charcoal...like activated charcoal?  Washing isn&apos;t going to rejuvenate an activated charcoal filter.  That&apos;s what&apos;s inside most water filters.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:20:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dunkadunc</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/105633/Is-pennywise-poundfoolish-with-replacement-filters#1525272</link>	
		<description>All that nasty &#252;berfine dust is going to stay in there, stuck to the particles and making the filter stuffed up.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:34:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dirty lies</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/105633/Is-pennywise-poundfoolish-with-replacement-filters#1525294</link>	
		<description>HEPA filters (coming from a biologically clean room perspective, where I have some experience) have equivalent filtering efficiency, otherwise they can not be called HEPA. Beware of &quot;HEPA type&quot;, &quot;HEPA like&quot;, &quot;97.7% HEPA&quot;, etc....&lt;br&gt;
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What does change depending on the brand is the durability, both in terms of the time it takes for them to saturate and how resistant they are to wear and tear.&lt;br&gt;
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Activated charcoal is not used to capture dust in the way a sand sieve captures pebbles. It uses Van der Waals force and sometimes chemical reactions to capture particles. It works at the atom or molecule level. Sometimes it is treated with other chemicals to absorb specific contaminants. Washing with water will remove some of the larger particles that have become mechanically trapped in the filter, but will not &quot;reactivate&quot; the charcoal.&lt;br&gt;
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Charcoal is reactivated or regenerated in very high temperature ovens, in the absence of oxygen or other reactive gases. Not a home project usually.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:56:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dirty lies</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dirty lies</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/105633/Is-pennywise-poundfoolish-with-replacement-filters#1525298</link>	
		<description>Keeping with the penny-wise theme, if you have been using your air filter in normal household conditions, it will likely be still activated at the time the manufacturer recommends replacement.&lt;br&gt;
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You can take the charcoal out of the filter, put it in a shallow bowl, and use it to deodorize the fridge, a closet, whatever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:00:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dirty lies</dc:creator>
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