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	<title>Comments on: Looking for a picture that would be worth 1,000 words</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:00:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Looking for a picture that would be worth 1,000 words</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/104643/Looking-for-a-picture-that-would-be-worth-1000-words</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m trying to find a psychological/sociological study on men and women&apos;s views of the ideal female body type. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Several years ago, in college, I took a &quot;human sexuality&quot; course where our textbook showed two full-body illustrations of adult women standing next to each other. The women were very generic-looking and looked identical aside from their body shape. This was illustrating the results of &lt;strong&gt;a study in which men and women were asked to specify what they considered the ideal female body type. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Women&apos;s ideal was distinctly skinnier than average, while men&apos;s ideal was around average and notably curvy.&lt;br&gt;
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I want to do a blog post riffing on this disparity, and I&apos;d love to be able to link to a study like this to use as a starting point. Here are my main criteria:&lt;br&gt;
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(1) There has to be a discussion of both&lt;em&gt; men&apos;s and women&apos;s views&lt;/em&gt; contained within a single study. &lt;br&gt;
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(2) It has to be about perceived attractiveness of &lt;em&gt;female &lt;/em&gt;body types. &lt;br&gt;
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(3) I&apos;m interested in reasonably recent studies about current perceptions (&lt;em&gt;not &lt;/em&gt;a critique about how Marilyn Monroe used to be considered ideal and so on). &lt;br&gt;
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(4) I&apos;d hoping to find that same study or a similar one with &lt;strong&gt;illustrations&lt;/strong&gt; of the different perceived ideals.&lt;br&gt;
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(5) It can&apos;t be something you&apos;d need to have a paid subscription in order to see. &lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve found this surprisingly hard to Google. I&apos;ve found lots of references to the ideal &quot;hips-waist ratio,&quot; but that&apos;s limitedly useful since it&apos;s only about proportions.&lt;br&gt;
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Since this is just for a personal blog and not academic research, there are no real standards for what kind of source I use. But I do want to find scientific data -- &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; anecdotes or trenchant social commentary.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:30:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jaltcoh</dc:creator>
		
			<category>women</category>
		
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			<category>body</category>
		
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		<title>By: polexa</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/104643/Looking-for-a-picture-that-would-be-worth-1000-words#1513041</link>	
		<description>I remember seeing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fabulousmag.co.uk/diets/diet_body_survey_results_issue_025.php&quot;&gt;this &lt;/a&gt;go around a while ago.. it was a survey by a magazine, and the illustrate it using photos of models.&lt;br&gt;
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Then there&apos;s this &lt;a href=&quot;http://prevos.net/ola/body_image.pdf&quot;&gt;academic study&lt;/a&gt; [pdf] but it doesn&apos;t really have good illustrations.</description>
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		<title>By: Jaltcoh</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/104643/Looking-for-a-picture-that-would-be-worth-1000-words#1513069</link>	
		<description>Thanks -- that &lt;em&gt;would&lt;/em&gt; be perfect ... if only it were a bit less NSFW. I&apos;d prefer something that doesn&apos;t have in-your-face nudity.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:34:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: invisible ink</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/104643/Looking-for-a-picture-that-would-be-worth-1000-words#1513143</link>	
		<description>This doesn&apos;t completely address all of the criteria you listed above, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.psy.utexas.edu/psy/faculty/singh/singh.html&quot;&gt;Devendra Singh&lt;/a&gt;, Professor at University of Texas, Austin, has done quite a bit of research on this topic.  I first read about him in the October 2008 issue of Glamour magazine (link goes to 2nd page of the article):&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.glamour.com/sex-love-life/2008/09/five-times-youre-sexy-to-men?currentPage=2&quot;&gt;Researchers at the University of Texas at Austin showed men&#8212;from twentysomethings to octogenarians&#8212;several line drawings of female body types. When they were asked to pick the most attractive, their across-the-board first choice was (sorry to annoy all you naturally waif-y types!) the curvy, medium-weight figure. To Devendra Singh, the psychologist who ran the study, these findings jibed with the basic tenet of evolutionary psychology: We are driven by ancient instincts to survive and reproduce. Subconsciously, men know that our curves signal health, youth and fertility.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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If you have access to a community college or university library, here are some abstracts of his work:&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://lib.bioinfo.pl/pmid:16818094&quot;&gt;Universal allure of the hourglass figure: an evolutionary theory of female physical attractiveness&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://lib.bioinfo.pl/pmid:12496738&quot;&gt;Female Mate Value at a Glance: Relationship of Waist-to-Hip Ratio to Health, Fecundity and Attractiveness&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Googling his name will bring up more results linking to (free) mainstream news articles.  Hope this helps:-) &lt;br&gt;
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:20:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cashman</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/104643/Looking-for-a-picture-that-would-be-worth-1000-words#1513318</link>	
		<description>&quot;FEMALE AND MALE PERCEPTIONS OF IDEAL BODY SHAPES: Distorted Views Among Caucasian College Students&quot; has &lt;a href=&quot;http://i34.tinypic.com/fcl8uc.jpg&quot;&gt;illustrations&lt;/a&gt; on page 74 (but not actual pictures).&lt;br&gt;
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You can check around &lt;a href=&quot;http://contexts.org/socimages/&quot;&gt;socimages&lt;/a&gt; too - it&apos;s a goldmine for this stuff.  If you have time, email them - they&apos;re sure to have some good stuff for you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:44:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Silvertree</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/104643/Looking-for-a-picture-that-would-be-worth-1000-words#1513577</link>	
		<description>Bergstrom, R. L., Neighbors, C., &amp;amp; Lewis, M. A. (2004). Do men find &quot;bony&quot; women attractive? Consequences of misperceiving opposite sex perceptions of attractive body image. Body Image: An International Journal of Research, 1, 183-191.&lt;br&gt;
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Bergstrom, R. L., Neighbors, C., &amp;amp; Malheim. J. E. (in press). Media comparisons and threats to body image: Seeking evidence of self-affirmation. Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology.&lt;br&gt;
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Not sure when the second is being published yet, but I know Bergstrom et al has a few illustrations that would work and all of the reference articles you would need.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:45:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jaltcoh</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/104643/Looking-for-a-picture-that-would-be-worth-1000-words#1549368</link>	
		<description>Thanks, everyone. I ended up using the second link in the first answer (the one marked best).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:48:00 -0800</pubDate>
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