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		<title>Question: New York Subway Fiction Suggestions</title>
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		<description>LiteratureFilter: Yo metafilterland.  I&apos;m on a quest for two things: literary representations of the new york city subway, the more personal and sensorial the better, and literary representations of a new york city without subways, circa before 1904.  Non-fiction and suggestions are welcome as well, as are examples that use less stringent definitions of &quot;text&quot; (film, song lyrics, dance etc).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:15:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Prospero</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484010</link>	
		<description>NYC subway riding plays an important part in Thomas Pynchon&apos;s &lt;em&gt;V.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:22:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Prospero</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: amro</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484017</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Time and Again&lt;/em&gt; by Jack Finney.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:26:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tallus</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484020</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Libra&lt;/em&gt; by Don DeLillo, opens with an extended description of a young Lee Harvey Oswald riding the subway trains.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:33:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Miko</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484024</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/keillor/2008/07/23/new_york/&quot;&gt;Garrison Kiellor&lt;/a&gt; writes about the subway now and then. There&apos;s a short piece in his collection &quot;We Are Still Married,&quot; as well, that isn&apos;t published on the web.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:42:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sidhedevil</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484028</link>	
		<description>Pre-subway:&lt;br&gt;
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When you say &quot;representations of New York without subways&quot; are you looking for representations of the previous public transit systems (horsecars, steam trams, electric trolleys)?  &lt;br&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;A Hazard of New Fortunes&lt;/i&gt; by William Dean Howells has an uncommon number of scenes on the horsecars.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;The Age of Innocence&lt;/i&gt; by Edith Wharton is an incredibly vivid portrait of 1870s New York.&lt;br&gt;
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There are a number of children&apos;s books published in the early 20th century that talk a lot about 19th-century New York and discuss the old public transit:  &lt;i&gt;Horsecars and Cobblestones&lt;/i&gt; by Sophie Ruskay is a fine one.&lt;br&gt;
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Lewis Mumford wrote some wonderful short memoirs about his childhood in turn-of-the-century New York; they were published in &lt;i&gt;The New Yorker&lt;/i&gt; in the 1930s and are generally included in any collection you&apos;ll find of his works.&lt;br&gt;
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Post-subway:&lt;br&gt;
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Joseph Mitchell&apos;s writing is like a spell to summon 20th-century Manhattan.  The collection &lt;i&gt;Up in the Old Hotel&lt;/i&gt; is a good place to start.&lt;br&gt;
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Also Dawn Powell.  There&apos;s a bit about the subway in &lt;i&gt;The Golden Spur&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;Invisible Man&lt;/i&gt; has some subway stuff, including an interesting scene where the protag sees nuns praying on a subway platform.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;On the Town&lt;/i&gt; has a subplot with one of the characters falling in love with &quot;Miss Turnstiles&quot; (based on the real life &quot;Miss Subways&quot; who was selected annually to represent the Transit Authority in advertising).&lt;br&gt;
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And of course, the TV show &quot;Beauty and the Beast&quot; (with Linda Hamilton and Ron Perlman) took place in a New York underground kingdom that one could access through the subways.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:44:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jrishel</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484033</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0689710666/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Slake&apos;s Limbo&lt;/a&gt;, a 13 year old boy runs away and lives in the subway.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:48:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pupdog</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484043</link>	
		<description>There are parts of Scott Westerfeld&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scottwesterfeld.com/books/peeps.htm&quot;&gt;Peeps&lt;/a&gt; taking place in the tunnels and such, as well as other bits of underground NYC - also a fairly entertaining read.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:56:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mattbucher</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484046</link>	
		<description>There is an anthology of NYC subway stories called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0452287790/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Subway Chronicles.&lt;/a&gt; I&apos;d also recommend Finney&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Time and Again&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:58:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matildaben</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484067</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harpers.org/archive/2004/12/0080325&quot;&gt;Speak, Hoyt Schermerhorn&lt;/a&gt; by Jonathan Lethem. (Also available in the collection &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1400076811/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;The Disappointment Artist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:20:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 8dot3</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484069</link>	
		<description>One of the most bizarrely fascinating books I&apos;ve ever read was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/051758445X/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Subway Lives,&lt;/a&gt; a 300+ page tome on the history of the New York subway systems.  It talked about the history of transport in New York, as well as how changes in the system changed daily life in NY in ways no one would have predicted. (One of the goofy things I always remember was how when the base fare went from $1 to $1.05, the local economy of NY was inundated with millions of pennies that had been sitting in peoples homes in change jars for years. It affected tellers at banks, people making change in stores, the weight of bank deposits, the time it took store clerks to count change at the end of the night.) &lt;br&gt;
Looks like it&apos;s out of print but available. Great read.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:21:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tractorfeed</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484080</link>	
		<description>The 1967 film &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060358/&quot;&gt;Dutchman&lt;/a&gt; takes place entirely in a New York City subway car.  Also, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Taking_of_Pelham_One_Two_Three_(1974_film)&quot;&gt;The Taking of Pelham 1,2,3&lt;/a&gt; is a great subway film.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:33:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484102</link>	
		<description>Stretching the meaning of text - &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Days_%28documentary%29&quot;&gt;Dark Days&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:57:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484123</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120240/&quot;&gt;Subway Stories: Tales from the Underground&lt;/a&gt;. This is a collection of ten filmed vignettes that all take place on the subway in New York, and all the vignettes are based on real-life experiences.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:28:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: machine</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484141</link>	
		<description>&quot;The Alienist&quot; and &quot;The Angel of Darness&quot; by Caleb  Carr are set in New York pre-subway. Even has Teddy Roosevelt pre-President.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:47:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Metroid Baby</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484171</link>	
		<description>I have wanted to read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/155652241X/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;The Mole People&lt;/a&gt; for quite some time now.  There have been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2498/em-the-mole-people-em-revisited&quot;&gt;criticisms of its veracity&lt;/a&gt;, but it looks like a good read nonetheless.&lt;br&gt;
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It&apos;s not exactly about the subway, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1582349606/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Kiki Strike: Inside the Shadow City&lt;/a&gt; involves a secret network of tunnels underneath NYC, and is a pretty good read for a &quot;young adult&quot; book.&lt;br&gt;
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And if you&apos;re into the secrets-underneath-New-York theme, perhaps there&apos;s something in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ninjaturtles.com/&quot;&gt;Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles&lt;/a&gt; canon that&apos;d interest you?  Not sure how much they ride the subway, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:09:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Metroid Baby</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ignignokt</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484174</link>	
		<description>The movie &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217505/&quot;&gt;Gangs of New York&lt;/a&gt; portrays an almost mythological early New York, replete with secret Irish tunnels under New York and primitive large-scale ethnic clashes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:15:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484188</link>	
		<description>Theres dark goings on beneath New York (and racism) in Lovecrafts &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Horror_at_Red_Hook&quot;&gt;The Horror at Red Hook&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:27:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quietgal</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484203</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s a scene in &quot;Saturday Night Fever&quot; in which John Travolta is wearing his flashy white disco duds in a grimy graffiti-covered subway car.  (&lt;small&gt;That was the subway of my youth and I&apos;m always surprised when I visit NYC and the subways are reasonably clean and not breaking down at every other station.&lt;/small&gt;)  It&apos;s a stretch to say this movie is about the subways, but the contrast between the system now and in the 1970s is pretty interesting.&lt;br&gt;
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In &quot;Catcher in the Rye&quot; Holden Caulfield leaves the fencing team&apos;s gear on the subway.  Again a stretch, but how can you &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; mention &quot;Catcher in the Rye&quot; in connection with New York?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:35:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Calloused_Foot</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484324</link>	
		<description>Money Train isn&apos;t a particularly good movie, but a lot of it involves the subway</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:52:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SallyHitMeOntheHead</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484483</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Taking_of_Pelham_One_Two_Three&quot;&gt;The Taking of Pelham One, Two, Three is also a book.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;
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Also, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Dressler:_The_Tale_of_an_American_Dreamer&quot;&gt;Martin Dressler: The Tale of an American Dreamer&lt;/a&gt; is about NY about the time they were building the subways, but it&apos;s also fiction.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:30:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tylerfulltilt</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/102322/New-York-Subway-Fiction-Suggestions#1484679</link>	
		<description>Large sections of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0802139922/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Sol Yurick&apos;s &lt;em&gt;The Warriors&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; take place on the New York city L trains and subways</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:05:43 -0800</pubDate>
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