Comments on: Lightweight gaming.

Question: Lightweight gaming.

flibbertigibbet — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:45:48 -0800

I want some computer games that have high replayability, are relatively cheap (0-20$ CAD/USD), NOT need a CD to play, and most importantly, take up as little hard-drive space and processor power as possible. Possible examples including good pieces of IF (especially mystery, who-killed-X ones), Fallout 2, Rogue-likes, games of the lightweight Boomshine/Peggle/Bejweled group, any RTS or turn-based strategy games, and anything by Nifflas. I'd love blogs that recommend good games, too. Any recommendations?

I've seen the all of the 'Best indie games of 2006/2007/2008' etc. posts on the blue, but I don't care about the source so much as it being lightweight and fun, and that's a whooole lot of games to go through, so I'm hoping you guys can help me filter the wheat from the chaff.

My current favourite games, but which may not suit all of the requirements above, include Portal, Half-life 2, Grim Fandango, Starcraft, Civ 2/4, No One Lives Forever, and Alpha Centauri.

By: brundlefly

brundlefly — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:59:43 -0800

You may have already been there, and it's mostly Flash games, but Jay is Games often includes downloadable "casual" PC games.

By: pupdog

pupdog — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:00:49 -0800

jayisgames.com is a great place to get this sort of thing. DeathWorm is a favorite of mine, and it's tiny...

By: flibbertigibbet

flibbertigibbet — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:09:40 -0800

Yeah. In an earlier draft I had mentioned jayisgames. I'm beginning to not like jayisgames on principle because of its continued lipservice to the games made by affiliates, and it's general hit-to-miss ratio. It's bugging me. A better example of things that are up my alley is perhaps Play This Thing!.

By: Geppp

Geppp — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:13:11 -0800

The old Command and Conquers fit the bill nicely; I used to play them on my old Pentium 166, and they ran great

By: curagea

curagea — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:15:10 -0800

Kloonigames is a blog by an independent game developer who also posts his games online, for free. He makes roughly one game per month, and some of them are pretty out-there. As far as I know, they don't take up much space, although I had framerate issues with some of his newer works. In particular, he's famous for Crayon Physics, which a Deluxe edition is in the works.

By: Real.Wolf

Real.Wolf — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:15:55 -0800

Soldat is a multiplayer 2D side-view shooter, free, and absolutely a blast to play.

By: chrominance

chrominance — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:16:06 -0800

You know there is a sequel to No One Lives Forever? I liked it far more than the original, and it should run on pretty much any computer nowadays.

One recent lightweight game I highly enjoyed was Armadillo Run. Only played the demo, and it's $20 so it's at the far end of your price range, so I can't vouch for its longevity. Good if you like Incredible Machine-type escapades, though.

You could also try the Penny Arcade game and Telltale's various adventure game series (Sam and Max, Strongbad). Each "season" of the Telltale games will set you back more than $20 easy, but you can download individual episodes to see if you like them (and sometimes they'll even have one episode for free download).

I'd recommend Dwarf Fortress here, but you said as little processor power as possible, and DF does love to suck up CPU cycles. It is, however, a really fun roguelike and fortress simulator all in one, and it's incredibly deep and complex, so if you're willing to compromise on the CPU front... (it runs just fine on my two-year-old laptop, though the cramped keyboard means I have to remap a bunch of commands)

By: gregjones

gregjones — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:17:45 -0800

You might want to keep an eye on Good Old Games who are offering (though only to beta-testers at the moment) DRM-free, downloadable old games such as Fallout 2 for either $6 or $9

By: flibbertigibbet

flibbertigibbet — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:23:36 -0800

Gregjones: actually, Good Old Games is part of what inspired this question. I'm defintiely going to grab Fallout 2, so if anyone has a suggestion as to which Interplay game I should get for free (is Messiah or Invictus any good, or should I go with Fallout 1?), by all means mention it.

And thanks guys! It's been less than an hour since I posted this, and already I'm getting great answers.

By: Zed_Lopez

Zed_Lopez — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:34:53 -0800

Previously. And here's a thread recommending interactive fiction games.

I'll plug Nethack, but since you mentioned rogue-likes, you probably already know that one.

By: Nedroid

Nedroid — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:54:51 -0800

I've found a lot of good, free games by checking out the Highly Recommended category at The Independent Games Source.

By: that girl

that girl — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:08:03 -0800

The guy who made puTTY, everyone's favorite windows telnet/SSH program*, made a bunch of tiny little puzzle games that take minimal processor and memory. My favorite is Map.

They probably fall into the realm of the solitaire-type, that you open when you're very bored and play mindlessly for a while, although they do require a little more brains than solitaire.

*not necessarily everyone's favorite

By: rjt

rjt — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:25:00 -0800

I've just been looking into exactly this myself...

I'm going to Nth jayisgames, but particularly their Weekend Download section, which finds the occasional jewel. They do include a fair few demos, but those are clearly marked. You might be particularly interested in their Interactive Fiction special.

Have you thought about emulation? The SNES has a couple of good emulators (ZSNES and Snes9x) and you can torrent pretty much every ROM ever made easily enough. (It is, obviously, probably illegal where you live, though.) If you're not sure where to start, this seems a pretty good list.

There's also ScummVM which can play a whole host of point-and-click adventures, although again, you'll have to get the game-files from torrents or other dubious sources.

And no emulator post is complete without mentioning MAME

Then there's the remake scene. retrospec is a good database, so if there's anything from the 80s you're particularly hankering to play, they probably have a modern update. I spent most of last night dying a lot at Wizball, for example.

Finally, older DOS games can be often still be run (sometimes with help from DosBox). The magic google term here is "abandonware", although the DOS scene is generally no way near as legit as they pretend. Command and Conquer is free though.

By: EarBucket

EarBucket — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:55:05 -0800

You can download the original X-Com from Steam for five bucks.

By: EarBucket

EarBucket — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:59:10 -0800

Oh, and if you're going to play Fallout 2, I'd start with Fallout 1. It's not necessary, but you'll grok a little more of the story, and there's not really any kind of upgrade in the sequel that makes it massively more enjoyable than the first one. They use the same engine. You'll get more playtime and enjoyment if you play through both games.

By: Fuzzy Skinner

Fuzzy Skinner — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:03:36 -0800

The Marathon Trilogy ate up considerable amounts of my time back in ye olden days, and are still a lot of fun. Best off, you can download them for free. Here's a good place to start.

By: rhizome

rhizome — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:09:04 -0800

I'm currently partial to Desktop Tower Defense and FreeCiv.

By: advicepig

advicepig — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:41:40 -0800

In another vein, I really like Jardinains 2, it's like Breakout, but with garden gnomes attacking you.

By: equalpants

equalpants — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:51:32 -0800

Escape is a Chip's Challenge/Sokoban-style puzzle game with many hundreds of user-contributed levels. (There hasn't been much good stuff recently, but you can sort the levels by user rating, and there's a lot of amazing stuff among the higher-rated levels.)

By: brundlefly

brundlefly — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:32:58 -0800

Darwinia?

By: blahtsk

blahtsk — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:06:29 -0800

Dwarf Fortress. There is no way I can convey to you how awesome this game is. Go through the tutorials on the wiki first or you'll be confused. Favorite game of all time.

In what other game can your minions go insane, take off all their clothes, and drown themselves in a river?

By: juv3nal

juv3nal — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:09:34 -0800

Star Control 2
Actually, I don't know how lightweight that version is. It's certainly possible to track down the original and get it to run though.

Also, have you tried Cave Story & An Untitled Story?

By: Rinku

Rinku — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:32:07 -0800

Cave Story, Cave Story, Cave Story.

You might also look at this post, though it sounds like you might have already seen it.

Seconding emulation - the Super Nintendo, IMO, was the peak of video games as art, though there are obvious exceptions. You might also consider emulating the NES, Genesis, and various game boy systems.

By: Freaky

Freaky — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:44:03 -0800

Dwarf Fortress is very good, and well worth getting past the scary interface, but it can and will eat as much of a core as you can give it unless you limit your play area size, fluid flows and creature numbers. Just because a goat is represented by a 'g' instead of 10,000 per-pixel lit textured polygons doesn't mean there isn't a lot going on under the hood.

By: brundlefly

brundlefly — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:29:31 -0800

I third (or fifth, if you count all of Rinku's mentions) Cave Story. One of the best games I've ever played.

By: aeschenkarnos

aeschenkarnos — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:10:32 -0800

If you like turn-based strategy games: Master of Magic and Advanced Civilization.

By: ludwig_van

ludwig_van — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:49:32 -0800

All of the games by Ben "Yahtzee" Crenshaw, of Zero Punctuation. I particularly recommend 7 Days a Skeptic.

Also the classic Escape Velocity.

By: Four Flavors

Four Flavors — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:41:00 -0800

If you enjoy the Fallout universe, then try the predecessor: Wasteland. You can find it on TheUnderdogs for free (abandonware).